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Title: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on June 23, 2011, 03:05:50 PM
Shineback teaser trailer #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87bnRN4Ypo)

Memory House #1 - Shineback video blog Sept 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Me7krCeUAo)

As mentioned in another thread on the forum, I’m currently putting together my first solo collection of music under the project name Shineback. I haven’t said anything very detailed about it thus far as I didn’t really want to take attention away from the last stages of the Big Red Tour but I thought the time had come to let people know what has been brewing in the pot up here in The Crows Nest these past few months (or indeed, years).

Shineback is basically a studio project which I’ve created to help clear out the dusty cupboards of all the interesting little songs and tunes that couldn’t find a place in the Tinyverse and also a forum to do a little sonic R&D (much like King Crimson does with The Projekts) without viciously violating the musical sensibilities of the other band members.

Some of the songs were submitted for The Big Red Spark but were felt to be not really suitable either in style or sound, others were simply underdeveloped tunes which I have been steadily working upon in the background during quiet moments in order to test some of the more esoteric limits of both Pro Tools and myself.

This particular project has a much more electronic/cinematic sound but still retains a healthy progressive edge to it (that part will always remain very important to me). I thought that both the electronic and the cinematic elements of The Big Red Spark deserved a little more creative investigation and so Shineback will be pushing a little further into these areas to see if there is anything useful I can bring back to Tinyfish for the next record.

Let me just say that the next Tinyfish album as an entity will not be affected in the least by this solo stuff but there are a number of technical and compositional elements I wish to try out using Shineback first to see if they work before I risk employing them on the next ‘Fishes album (the Fart sounds need work you see).

I’m currently more or less 90% there with the material which is why I’m mentioning it now. I intend to post a few bits and bobs somewhere out there (probably on Soundcloud or YouTube) for people to listen to fairly soon.

More updates as they happen.

S.

UPDATE: September 2012

The Shineback Q&A.

Q. Why does it take so long for you to produce an album?

A. I am in inveterate fiddler. I’ve always believed that the devil is in the detail and if there is detail to be found, you can be sure that I’ll be up to my neck in it. In doing so, I like to take my time with projects, especially when attempting to break new creative ground and the Shineback album is something I would most certainly classify as a record which is reaching into areas previously unsullied by prog.

Q. You keep breaking studio computers. Why is that?

A. I hate them and they hate me.

Q. Are you playing all the instruments yourself?

A. All of the great music on the album is played by me. All the rubbish and difficult stuff is played by musicians such as Matt Stevens (The Fierce And The Dead), Dec Burke (The Dec Burke Band/Frost*/Darwins Radio), Hen Rogers (DeeExpus/Touchstone), Andy Ditchfield (DeeExpus) and Hywel Bennett (The Dec Burke Band). These musicians represent the finest talent Prog has to offer for the price of a pint of larger and a packet of cheese and onion crisps.

Q. What is the title of the Shineback album and is there a story behind it?

A. The title of the album is Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed and yes there is a story. It’s about a young, very disturbed woman called Dora who takes a video camera into her dreams and records what she sees.

Q. Is it another bloody concept album?

A. Yes it bloody is; very bloody.

Q. Is it a prog album?

A. I think it is but I have a very warped sense of what constitutes a prog album. It’s not a 1970s prog album however. Of that you can be very sure.

Q. This album is to be the first release through a new label called BEM (Bad Elephant Music). Is that correct?

A. Yes, it's run by two really shady characters called David Elliot (who hosts The European Perspective Progressive Rock podcast) and James Allen (who doesn’t). They are really hard bastards and many a prog act has been ‘disappeared’ by their heavies. I do exactly what I’m told because they scare the living crap out of me.

Q. When will the album be released?

A. That is a question for BEM and be polite when you ask. My guess would be the first part of 2013.

Q. Will there be another Tinyfish album?

A. Yes. It will be terribly good; or maybe just terrible. We haven’t decided yet.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on June 23, 2011, 03:08:40 PM
want to hear now!!

seriously, this is really cool and exciting, Simon!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on June 23, 2011, 03:27:42 PM
cool news. I listen forward to hearing this.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on June 23, 2011, 03:37:27 PM
Sweet!

Can I have an exclusive for my hypothetical prog/electronica crossover podcast?

 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 23, 2011, 03:45:37 PM
Of course sir.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 23, 2011, 04:05:52 PM
do you want a domain name for it?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 23, 2011, 04:25:28 PM
Where can I pre-order ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on June 23, 2011, 04:36:02 PM
Sounds excellent Simon - I'll look forward to listening to it - and of course, I'll put in a pre-order as well.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 23, 2011, 05:54:29 PM
I've heard some, and it's ace.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on June 23, 2011, 06:25:21 PM
I've heard some, and it's ace.

jelly.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 23, 2011, 06:44:04 PM
do you want a domain name for it?
Can you get one for me?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Ash on June 23, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
why Shineback? (sorry if you explained name choice already)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 23, 2011, 07:09:39 PM
do you want a domain name for it?
Can you get one for me?
is the Pope a Nazi?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 23, 2011, 07:11:36 PM
why Shineback? (sorry if you explained name choice already)

Cos it's like Nickelback, but it sounds shinier.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 23, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
why Shineback? (sorry if you explained name choice already)
It was the only domain name left.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 23, 2011, 07:33:52 PM
shineback.org is now yours to do with as you wish.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 23, 2011, 07:35:25 PM
He should organise it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on June 23, 2011, 07:35:48 PM
looking forward to it :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 23, 2011, 07:45:45 PM
Yes, really looking forward to hearing what Shineback will be like, Simon. The orchestral sections on TBRS were one of the most impressive bits of the album for me, so I'm delighted to see you say you're looking back in to develop that. I doubt you will, but if you need any help, etc. etc.  ;)

The idea of having a different platform to experiment with ideas and styles that wouldn't fit into the main band profile was an idea I had myself a few years ago. Except that I lack any original material to try it out with. And a main band for it to be seperate from. I'm sure I'll get there eventually.  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 23, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
shineback.org is now yours to do with as you wish.
Cheers Robert. Let me know by PM how much I owe you sir.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 23, 2011, 08:32:45 PM
Cheers Robert. Let me know by PM how much I owe you sir.  :)
Rob is most likely honoured to support an artist of your stature, Simon...

(http://tapatalk.com/mu/5c18622a-a2e9-812b.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 23, 2011, 08:34:10 PM
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/dangerous-animals-1.jpg)

More like.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 23, 2011, 08:54:09 PM
Heh. Frog. I like frogs.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 23, 2011, 10:07:00 PM
Cheers Robert. Let me know by PM how much I owe you sir.  :)
Rob is most likely honoured to support an artist of your stature, Simon...

(http://tapatalk.com/mu/5c18622a-a2e9-812b.jpg)
Is that duck using the other duck as a kind of prostitute David?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 23, 2011, 10:18:14 PM
 :D ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 23, 2011, 10:24:46 PM
I've heard some, and it's ace.
Oh bloody hell yes, I have played you some haven't I? And Matt for that matter.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on June 23, 2011, 10:56:14 PM
I've heard some, and it's ace.
Oh bloody hell yes, I have played you some haven't I? And Matt for that matter.  ;D

And i was very excited to hear it - v cool :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 23, 2011, 11:05:22 PM
Has anyone else heard it ?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UOcgryj2364/Sp-f-DIzIqI/AAAAAAAAALQ/9o3sAMv2aCI/s400/BAP_BBC_5219.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 23, 2011, 11:23:12 PM
Has anyone else heard it ?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UOcgryj2364/Sp-f-DIzIqI/AAAAAAAAALQ/9o3sAMv2aCI/s400/BAP_BBC_5219.jpg)
that hat suits you, James.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 23, 2011, 11:35:15 PM
why Shineback? (sorry if you explained name choice already)
I hope you'll understand Sarah when I say that the name is tied in the with the music on the album and so I don't wish to give too much away at this point as I still don't have all of it fully evolved on hard disk or indeed, in my head. :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 24, 2011, 12:54:41 AM
The name just sounded good, then?  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 24, 2011, 04:48:47 AM
The name and the music sounded good to them
(http://www.ukgameshows.com/p/images/7/77/Shiny_show_puppets.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 24, 2011, 06:08:03 AM
Is that duck using the other duck as a kind of prostitute David?
Exactly so, Sir ;D

(And we know how she's usually paid...)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on June 24, 2011, 06:11:56 AM
The name and the music sounded good to them
(http://www.ukgameshows.com/p/images/7/77/Shiny_show_puppets.jpg)
Google images has different pictures...

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQt05-kSc6zv2ytyVAA7u8z4MECy1_KoJlqVw5B7DevxQ3he3kF7KQmWw)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 24, 2011, 07:53:43 AM
 :o


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 24, 2011, 08:19:05 AM
Catherine already had that one.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 24, 2011, 08:37:08 AM
The name and the music sounded good to them
(http://www.ukgameshows.com/p/images/7/77/Shiny_show_puppets.jpg)
That bloody show haunts me more than Quorn curry. Huw loved it, Yvette and I wanted to scream every time it came on.

"Give yourself a shiny!"

Bastards.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 24, 2011, 09:21:09 AM

That bloody show haunts me more than Quorn curry. Huw loved it, Yvette and I wanted to scream every time it came on.

"Give yourself a shiny!"

Bastards.

Er... give yourself a shiny what?

I don't recognise that show at all - my boys and I neatly managed to avoid that one. However, I come out in a cold sweat every time I hear the Thomas the Tank Engine theme tune.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 24, 2011, 09:22:09 AM
"Give yourself a shiny!"
That is going to be the tagline for the album, isn't it...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 24, 2011, 09:23:03 AM
It is now.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 24, 2011, 10:30:26 AM
I don't recognise that show at all - my boys and I neatly managed to avoid that one. However, I come out in a cold sweat every time I hear the Thomas the Tank Engine theme tune.
Did they know the names and numbers of all the engines? Did you have to learn them too?

Ah, the scars...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 24, 2011, 10:38:34 AM
I don't recognise that show at all - my boys and I neatly managed to avoid that one. However, I come out in a cold sweat every time I hear the Thomas the Tank Engine theme tune.
Did they know the names and numbers of all the engines? Did you have to learn them too?

Ah, the scars...

Actually, I found that we had unwittingly used the Thomas the Tank Engine naming convention for the middle names of our sons.

Thomas - Engine #1 - middle name of my older son
Edward - Engine #2 - middle name of my younger son

Fortunately I didn't have any more than 2, or daughters, otherwise I think child #6 would have disowned me...

Henry - Engine #3
Gordon - Engine #4
James - Engine #5
Percy - Engine #6


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 24, 2011, 10:47:06 AM
Toby - engine #7
Duck (Montague) - engine #8
Donald - engine #9
Douglas - engine #10
Oliver - engine #11

...ah, it burns us...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Ash on June 24, 2011, 11:11:23 AM
I quite liked that show as I could get the questions right.  I got LOTS of shinys  ;D

Actually it was never on much as S was too old and K found it too easy even at the age of 1 and 2.  I don't miss cbeebies at all. 


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 25, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
More work on Shineback today. It really is good to be able to throw caution to the wind with some of of the material and the recording techniques without risking the new Tinyfish material in the process.

It really is my hope that this project will get me back to my fighting weight from a songwriting and engineering point of view. It's amazing how much you forget in such a short space of time.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 26, 2011, 12:19:45 AM
It's amazing how much you forget in such a short space of time.

I know what you mean. By the way, what the hell is a... 'Pro Tools'?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on June 26, 2011, 06:10:45 AM
Gah! Here's a thread that's got to four pages before I read any of it...must try harder!
So much for trying to filter by thread title... :o/

This sounds everso interesting and I can't wait to hear more.

Leakage between band and solo stuff is not uncommon and not a bad thing in my view, particularly when it works for the greater good. I was surprised when I heard some of the older Steve Howe stuff (e.g. "The Bodast Tapes"?) that riffs were so obviously recycled between his solo stuff and Yes stuff.

At least we can be 'safe in the knowledge' that this is not like the familiar boy band scenario where after a couple of albums the good looking, talented one goes off on his own... ;)

As for the Thomas The Tank Engine music, oh my goodness I know what you mean Cath. That flipping' VHS cassette was a double-edged thing; yeah, it kept the kids happy/occupied for a bit but 3-4 minute episodes back-to-back with the full theme at both ends of each episode...over-and-over-and-over-and... Water-boarding must be so inefficient compared to that.  :o


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 26, 2011, 01:56:35 PM
I will confess Pedro that in part, I was concerned that I would start in on a new Tinyfish record and find myself merely writing The Big Red Spark part 2. While in a way that would not be an unpleasant result, it's my hope that Shineback might help purge some of the residual sounds and feelings and also help point me in a new direction in time for the new Tinyfish record (the writing of which I am still developing alongside this current project).

In addition to this, the release of Shineback might highlight the huge contribution that the other band members of Tinyfish make to the initial demos I write and how we are very much a group endeavour (even more so now Leon is with us) which changes those demos into fully realised fishy songs.

As I said before, Shineback will be heading off into much more electronic and cinematic territory with a hard progressive edge.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on June 26, 2011, 02:00:55 PM
I'll be very interested in seeing what Tinyfish come up with next - another story/ a set of songs with strange spoken parts.  I'd say that you've set the bar very high and it's going to be a challenge.



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 26, 2011, 02:07:19 PM
That's very true Rob. We've all spoken about where Tinyfish go next but it's a bit like predicting the weather; you have a rough idea but no sure proof of the eventual outcome. What I can say is that the next album will have a harder progressive sound and less spoken word but will also be the first album where Robert Ramsay will be solely in charge of the lyrics instead of he and I both contributing words.

Couple this with the fact that Leon will be behind the kit in the studio and what you have is a significant line-up change for the next album which should help to switch things around some.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 26, 2011, 03:49:29 PM
It is going to be sunny.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 26, 2011, 03:54:31 PM
Simon, will the Shineback release also have the full complement of giggling and farting noises that we've come to expect from the Godfrey Stables?

Mr. Badger expects nothing less!

(http://tapatalk.com/mu/5c18622a-560d-784b.jpg)

(He's also willing to guest on the recording. He's a very talented harpist)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 26, 2011, 05:13:41 PM
We would be delighted to eat..er meet with Mr Badger.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 26, 2011, 06:21:46 PM
We would be delighted to eat..er meet with Mr Badger.

Sounds like you need the Roadkill Recipe Book, as described here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jan/31/foodanddrink.britishidentity).
I caught a radio programme recently where a chap was extolling the virtues of eating dead things he'd found by the side of the road - prob not the same guy as in the article, as he sounded a good bit younger - but he was abolutely raving about the owl bolognese he'd just cooked.  :o


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 26, 2011, 06:49:16 PM
I'm sure Mr. Badger's now quite upset at all this talk of what to do with him after you run him over.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 26, 2011, 07:25:55 PM
I'm sure Mr Badger was just waiting for the moment when Catherine would finally upset him - the suspense would have been killing him.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 26, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
Don't mess with Mr. Badger. He takes on bears (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RqJFza3sbE).

You're safe for the moment, he's outside strangling pigeons.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 26, 2011, 10:47:09 PM
I think badger pasties, most probably, with pommes boulangere and glazed carrots with basil, washed down with a cheeky Tempranillo.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on June 26, 2011, 11:03:36 PM
I think badger pasties, most probably, with pommes boulangere and glazed carrots with basil, washed down with a cheeky Tempranillo.
Oh no, you've run down Basil too?  ???

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00659/news-graphics-2008-_659250a.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 26, 2011, 11:08:48 PM
Catherine's cruelty knows no out of bounds  :(


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 26, 2011, 11:19:17 PM
He put Basil in the Ratatouille!  :o

(http://sharetv.org/images/guide/200815.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on June 26, 2011, 11:25:22 PM
Mouse will not be happy
(http://img.webring.com/r/t/theg8basil/logo)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 26, 2011, 11:56:06 PM
 :(


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 27, 2011, 06:37:51 AM
Catherine's cruelty knows no out of bounds  :(
She's playing with fire, I tell you.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 01, 2011, 09:33:29 AM
Hmmm. Not sure if I should stick a long song (10 minute plus) on the album or not.  :-\


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 01, 2011, 09:42:47 AM
Hmmm. Not sure if I should stick a long song (100 minute plus) on the album or not.  :-\
I'd go for it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on July 01, 2011, 09:43:52 AM
Hmmm. Not sure if I should stick a long song (10 minute plus) on the album or not.  :-\

If you want to, and it's good, you should. Don't do it just to appeal to / placate prog fans though.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on July 01, 2011, 09:46:39 AM
Hmmm. Not sure if I should stick a long song (10 minute plus) on the album or not.  :-\

If you want to, and it's good, you should. Don't do it just to appeal to / placate prog fans though.  :)

He speaks the truth. Stop worrying and do stuff.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on July 01, 2011, 11:06:09 AM
I don't understand all this obsession with length. 


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 01, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
I'm told girls have been lying about it to us men for years.  ;)

Well I can only speak for myself here naturally but there are some things you just can't say in 3-4 minutes. One of the songs I'm developing (called Amberworld) has the potential for snaking past the 5 min mark.

I'm not sure if I can couch this in terms that doesn’t end up making me sound like a pretentious git but for me, writing music is not like writing a book i.e. you plan it out with a beginning middle and an end. It's closer to a leap of faith.

Songwriting is metaphorically like trying to jump a big fissure in the ground that you couldn't get around otherwise. You commit to the run up and sometimes you have the mental energy to make the jump and the song manages to make all the hairs stand up on the back of your neck while you yell out the window what a cool dude you are to anyone that will hear.

Other times you falter halfway over and end up falling into the depths and you close the window quietly in the hope that no-one will ever notice you again. Sometimes if you are very lucky, you might  be able to climb out using the severed torsos and limbs of other dead songs (this is a delightful metaphor isn’t it?) but for the most part, the song just rots at the bottom like a rotten, smelly arse that hasn’t been washed in weeks.

I am available for birthdays or children's parties you know.

Tom Petty once titled an album of his Damn The Torpedoes and it really is like that for a lot of songwriters. For the most part, we have to rely on 'Goldwyn Luck' i.e. The harder we work, the luckier we get. The creative in you seeks to manufacture those happy accidents that helps locate the spark of something special in the dross. After that, you let loose the craftsman to build up or cut away all the other stuff.

Longer songs require more happy accidents than most but in doing so you run the risk of taking on a jump that is simply beyond you. I've heard lots of 20 minute songs that have hit that sort of creative dip well before the end of the tune. Amberworld is just at that point where it could be a brilliant longer song (almost epic in fact) as it shows a lot of potential, but the risk is that if I push the point, I could ruin what could be an otherwise excellent 6 minute tune.

That said, Shineback is a project designed to help push my Tinyfish writing onwards and upwards for the next album. It will allow me to take some creative risks and let me know which new elements work and which are just pain and simple bollocks. To do so without crapping on the heads of the other band members is a primary function of this endeavour.

As Joey Ramone once said to Phil Spector ‘Hey Phil, there always has to be one worst track on any album’. Perhaps it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on July 01, 2011, 01:56:21 PM
So you agree - length doesn't matter.

Songs, like people, can out-stay their welcome; some more quickly than others.

Whatever happens, I have complete confidence that the songs from Shineback will be first rate.

Anyway - must go - don't want to outstay my welcome.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 01, 2011, 02:11:39 PM
I have complete confidence that the songs from Shineback will be first rate.

I don't - and that, for me, is what makes it so exciting.

I don't doubt your talent Simon - but you've never done Shineback before - I hope of course it will be ace, but even if it falls over you will learn valuable things from it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 01, 2011, 03:30:09 PM
I think you both make very valid points. I'm not going to kid you that when I talk experimentation, I'm not aiming at Yoko Ono territory but I'll be taking more chances with this than I ever would with Tinyfish.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 01, 2011, 05:55:31 PM
What I certainly have no doubt of is that the results of your experiments will be interesting.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 01, 2011, 07:07:42 PM
I already know I am going to boycott it, and especially so after reading these last couple of posts from you, Simon


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ursula on July 01, 2011, 07:37:48 PM
When discussions turn to the value of length I'm always reminded of a Jasper Carrot comedy special from an election night many many years ago...

He did this whole sketch about premature election.....

It was hilarious, even my 80+year old grandmother cried with laughter - but maybe you had to be there at the time...

The closing line to the sketch was the quote

"its not the size of your cross that's important its what you do with it"

So there, Simon, you have it.





Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 02, 2011, 01:11:23 AM
I agree with all that's been said about song length. If something that needs to be said demands the time, then give it. If not, don't draw it on and on, because it just becomes unnecessary. I know a few Dream Theater tracks that are guilty of being long for the sake of length...

If you ever need a secondary producery type person to help give a third person perspective on important matters like this, Simon, just let me know.  ;)  (Well, if you don't ask...)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on July 02, 2011, 10:49:07 AM
...and in the same way as you should always test your mix on good gear and crap gear, if you need a non-producery type person to give you unimportant feedback...I'm that man! ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 02, 2011, 10:54:54 AM
If you want someone who is not a tosser...no, that's not me.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ursula on July 03, 2011, 07:49:09 AM
And if you ever need a sixth from the prog infant..... just call....
 ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 03, 2011, 08:22:11 AM
While of course if it gets particularly electronic and bleepy I did my time on the dancefloor.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 03, 2011, 12:08:30 PM
...and if you'd like a prog woman's perspective on it...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 03, 2011, 12:12:28 PM
Ashleaze must be around somewhere.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 03, 2011, 12:55:44 PM
 :P


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 03, 2011, 10:10:21 PM
More work in the studio Saturday and today. In total 20 hours of work of which I am pleased with about 70% of the produced output.

Working on an instrumental called Xo Va Yo which appears to be evolving into a head on collision between between Meshuggah, Mouse On Mars and phalanx of mellotrons (an instrument that features pretty heavily on all of the tracks thus far as it produces some fantastic chordal pads). It is easily the most complex track I've attempted this far.

I think I probably need two more songs and then might be ready to start adding guitars, vocals and guest musicians.  ;)

The best part about all of this sonic screwing about is how many ideas it is generating for Tinyfish.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 03, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
Mmm Meshuggah  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on July 03, 2011, 10:23:16 PM
Guest musicians...

...spoons at the ready! ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 03, 2011, 10:26:29 PM
*readies kazoo*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 03, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
Did Meshuggah use kazoos?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 03, 2011, 11:11:14 PM
Big ones.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on July 03, 2011, 11:11:46 PM
I expect Meshuggah use spoons...for stirring passages


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 03, 2011, 11:12:54 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 03, 2011, 11:14:57 PM
Meshuggah is brown. Very nice in my coffee.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 03, 2011, 11:16:58 PM
Now that's not going to help at all  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: benb on July 03, 2011, 11:55:06 PM
Did Meshuggah use kazoos?

Heavily distorted & down tuned ones :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 04, 2011, 09:03:20 AM
Meshuggah is brown. Very nice in my coffee.
Go and stand on the naughty step Mouse. You know that it's not nice to make people snort their tea out of their noses as they laugh.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 04, 2011, 10:37:43 AM
Clip-clippity-clop.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 04, 2011, 10:41:13 AM
(http://www.philbrodieband.com/muso-questions-little-mouse6.gif)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 04, 2011, 10:46:58 AM
Meshuggah is brown. Very nice in my coffee.
Go and stand on the naughty step Mouse. You know that it's not nice to make people snort their tea out of their noses as they laugh.
Although if that clears Yershuggah out of Yersystem then it can aid weight loss.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 04, 2011, 11:36:56 AM
I don't know Meshuggah at all - what's a good album to start with?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 04, 2011, 11:59:03 AM
I


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 04, 2011, 12:30:08 PM
The best one as far as I'm concerned is Obzen.

(http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1692/cover_573212212008.jpg)

We warned however that melodic content is a little hard to find as the band tend to focus almost purely on the rhythmic elements. It is none the worse for it however.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 04, 2011, 12:37:18 PM
Yes, this is quite...what's the word...bouncy.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 04, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
Arranged a meeting with a very high power record company exec for this Friday to talk about Shineback. I will have to pull out my shortest skirt and pile on the makeup slap to pull this particular captain of industry. I do have a plan though. I am going to buy him curry and then get Robert to sleep with him.

Pay the man Wizard.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 04, 2011, 10:15:06 PM
Curry is the currency of Prog.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on July 04, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
@Simon: Say hi to Mr Robinson for us when you meet with him ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 05, 2011, 06:42:32 AM
I am going to buy him curry and then get Robert to sleep with him.
The lucky, lucky bastard...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on July 05, 2011, 08:00:57 AM
I am going to buy him curry and then get Robert to sleep with him.
The lucky, lucky bastard...

hahahahaha Living the dream :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 05, 2011, 08:20:42 AM
The record company are always going to screw you - might as well go into it with eyes wide open and take it from the start.

And send a proxy, natch.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 05, 2011, 08:33:02 AM
The record company will most likely turn out to be a bunch of tossers.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on July 05, 2011, 08:43:51 AM
I hate you all deeply.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 05, 2011, 08:48:38 AM
This isn't news, Rob ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on July 05, 2011, 12:38:10 PM
I guess that dealing with record company execs can be a real pain in the arse.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 05, 2011, 01:06:58 PM
Probably will be, for Robert at least.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 05, 2011, 01:12:50 PM
I hate you all deeply.

I would be disappointed if your hatred were shallow.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on July 05, 2011, 01:33:28 PM
I'm already being hounded by people "reminding" me that Mark Colton is still in the Peel car park.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 05, 2011, 03:10:44 PM
It's useful experience for being shafted by a record company...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on July 05, 2011, 04:06:11 PM
I cannot tell you what I am thinking right now.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Twang on July 05, 2011, 04:59:19 PM
The best one as far as I'm concerned is Obzen.

(http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1692/cover_573212212008.jpg)

We warned however that melodic content is a little hard to find as the band tend to focus almost purely on the rhythmic elements. It is none the worse for it however.


Whoarrrr!!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 05, 2011, 11:59:03 PM
Well, this thread has taken a rather dark turn...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 06, 2011, 05:47:40 AM
Someone needs to bring the shine back into it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 06, 2011, 06:29:32 AM
Good grief. Mr. Badger isn't happy with that joke, and he's sending his friend Robert around. No, not that one...this one...

(http://tapatalk.com/mu/5c185e4d-008e-2f7e.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 06, 2011, 09:28:58 AM
Oh, is it that Robert who was going to 'help' Simon out with the record industry man person?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 06, 2011, 09:33:08 AM
I thought it was Simon's uncle Robert

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51487000/jpg/_51487303_the_enid_posed_sofa.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 06, 2011, 09:52:35 AM
Maybe the only time he would be happy to take one for the team.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 06, 2011, 10:00:57 AM
Ah dear uncle John.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 06, 2011, 02:11:01 PM
I thought it was Simon's uncle Robert

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51487000/jpg/_51487303_the_enid_posed_sofa.jpg)

Bob's your uncle? I thought that was just a phrase.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 06, 2011, 03:08:01 PM
There appears to be some sort of green octopus scaling the wall behind him.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 06, 2011, 03:15:38 PM
That's great uncle Cactus.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 06, 2011, 10:53:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87bnRN4Ypo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87bnRN4Ypo)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 06, 2011, 11:03:35 PM
Oooooh

 :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on July 06, 2011, 11:08:24 PM
Oooooh toooooh.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 06, 2011, 11:23:16 PM
ooh, pickles-on-a-stick!  can't wait!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 06, 2011, 11:54:27 PM
Looks infantile, but I suppose I can make womb for it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 07, 2011, 12:09:05 AM
Sounds ace, Si. Anticipation building!  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Nellie on July 07, 2011, 01:25:16 PM
I hope the next track is a bit longer  :-\


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on July 07, 2011, 02:30:50 PM
Very, very nice :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Twang on July 07, 2011, 02:54:59 PM
I thought it was Simon's uncle Robert

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51487000/jpg/_51487303_the_enid_posed_sofa.jpg)

Bob's your uncle? I thought that was just a phrase.


Quick someone call the Doctor, he's just about to be attacked by a Chrinoid!!  :o


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on July 07, 2011, 09:18:04 PM
Wearing a table cloth? Oh, on his right....


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ursula on July 10, 2011, 08:02:37 AM
*adopts dodgy Franglais accent from certain chocolate retailer*

Monsieur, wiv theez snippette you are really teasing us n'est ce pas" ;)



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 10, 2011, 09:46:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87bnRN4Ypo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87bnRN4Ypo)

It's more positive than that bloody miserable Steven Wilson teaser.

I like it - it promises much without giving anything much away.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 10, 2011, 10:23:42 AM
Thank you ladies and gents and your patients is appreciated.

Like any writing project, you have the Forth Bridge effect i.e. the songs you write at the start of the project sound a little flat compared to the latter material as you gather speed, pace and focus. The other interesting thing is that some songs destined for Shineback start to sound more at home in the Tinyverse and visa verse so there is a lot of switching songs between project folders right now.

The current lyrical concept of the Shineback album follows the life of an ordinary woman from birth through to old age and the extraordinary events that occur during her time here.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 10, 2011, 01:47:38 PM
really looking forward to this, Simon!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on July 10, 2011, 01:55:47 PM
...and what, pray tell, do the likes of you (or I for that matter) know about ordinary women??  ;)



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on July 10, 2011, 04:02:52 PM
really looking forward to this, Simon!

Same ere


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 10, 2011, 04:18:47 PM
Aye.  :)  (Get on with it.  ;) )


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Dawn on July 10, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
...and what, pray tell, do the likes of you (or I for that matter) know about ordinary women??  ;)



Yeah!  Ya'll only know us ornery women :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 10, 2011, 07:55:48 PM
So, is it done yet? *taps foot*  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 10, 2011, 08:59:28 PM
My mother said this kind of thing would happen ;)

I currently have about 15 or so songs knocking about out of which I will probably pick about 11 or 12. Robert and I were discussing an overall narrative for the record (yes it's going to have a story arc) as I still have things to explore using that musical format.

Robert is currently putting together a holding page for Shineback and (food poisoning notwithstanding), I'll be meeting up with that high powered, cigar toting, record company magnet next week now. I'm also talking to a well known graphic artist with a view to designing the album art.

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e312/Sigod/ShinebackLogo.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 10, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
With additional Shineback tea towels?  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 10, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on July 10, 2011, 09:14:13 PM
Just listened to the preview.
Sounds good - now get it done so we can listen to the rest of it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 17, 2011, 03:01:15 PM
Thanks to a very nice curry with some excellent company on Friday, yours truly is now a BEM recording artist. This means that the project is now a serious venture so you can expect some Shineback product before the end of the year.

www.shineback.org (http://www.shineback.org)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 17, 2011, 03:05:16 PM
I hope you didn't sign anything...please tell me you did not sign anything before taking advice !!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 17, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
I hope you didn't sign anything...please tell me you did not sign anything before taking advice !!!
He can't take advice from you, you're conflicted ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 17, 2011, 03:07:25 PM
The guy with the horns and pitchfork said it was fine and that the signature I gave on the blank piece of paper with the pentacle at the top was just a detail.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 17, 2011, 03:08:22 PM
The korma stain likely invalidated it, anyway.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 17, 2011, 03:16:48 PM
www.shineback.org (http://www.shineback.org)

Cool! It's all falling into place, then.  :)

I have two suggestions to annoy you with at this early stage, Simon.  ;D  One would be to give the homepage a name so that it says something other than "page title" in the tab at the top of a web browser. The other would be, if possible, to make the YouTube video a bit smaller so that it gets rid of that ugly scroll bar at the side of the screen and looks all smart. Ever so sorry. My Keeping My Mouth Shut lessons don't appear to be worth the money I'm (not) paying for them.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on July 18, 2011, 09:06:05 AM
Ok, ok, these are both my fault and I will fix them soonest!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: MikeEvs on July 18, 2011, 12:06:10 PM
Is Tinyfish on the page supposed to be a link to the tinyfish site as currently it points to: http://www.shineback.org/Library/www.tinyfish.org  which brings up a 404 error


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 18, 2011, 01:54:54 PM
very cool!!!  grats, Simon!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on July 18, 2011, 02:12:10 PM
Is Tinyfish on the page supposed to be a link to the tinyfish site as currently it points to: http://www.shineback.org/Library/www.tinyfish.org  which brings up a 404 error

Gaaaaah! It worked when I tested it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 18, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
still broke.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 18, 2011, 02:31:03 PM
Robert will get it sorted. He makes both computers and the internet his bitch with ease.  ;D

I've been getting a lot of requests to release some more material on the net. Thank you to all who have shown an interest in the project and I'm working very hard on getting some of the material ready for preview.

My current problem (if you can call it that) is that I have a few of the quieter numbers close enough to completion to post them on soundcloud but I don't wish to give the impression this will be a gentle or ambient record. I think I will wait until I have completed a rough demo of one of the louder songs before I post more audio.

What I can tell you is that due to this being purely a studio project, it is my aim to produce a video for each of the tracks upon the album although that might get reduced to about 20 mins if we find the budget won’t stretch to a full film to accompany the entire audio release.

My aim is to make this as complete a multimedia experience as I can but recognising the fact that although BEM are a fab bunch of guys, they are not Sony records and I am not allowed a budget that encompasses travel exotic location shoots and endless bikini waxes. One way or the other though, I’ll do my best to give you all as many visuals to accompany the music as I can. Once we have storyboarded the songs and worked out a budget, we plan to start assembling the cast and crew to undertake the video portion of the project.

This will however only take place once the majority of the music has been sorted.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 18, 2011, 02:58:25 PM
Robert will get it sorted. He makes both computers and the internet his bitch with ease.  ;D

oh, I'm not worried!  ;D

looking forward to whatever you'll share with us, Simon!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on July 18, 2011, 03:53:28 PM
I am not allowed a budget that encompasses travel exotic location shoots and endless bikini waxes.

Does this mean I have to send back the endless bikinis we ordered?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 18, 2011, 04:22:24 PM
"Fifty million bikinis?!" (None of you will get that as none of you watched the brilliant A Town Called Panic...)

I'm getting more and more excited about what Shineback will become with each new development, Simon. It sounds like bright times are ahead.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 18, 2011, 04:34:03 PM
If we club together to pay for a single bikini wax for Simon, do you think he'll let us watch while it's being done?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 18, 2011, 07:13:34 PM
Put me in for a tenner, Wilf  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 18, 2011, 07:52:20 PM
Funny, Catherine, I just had a feeling you'd bite...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 18, 2011, 09:35:08 PM
take video so it's forever.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: hoboslobo on July 18, 2011, 09:36:37 PM
take video so it's forever.

And it could be projected on the stage during live gigs.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 18, 2011, 09:37:16 PM
take video so it's forever.

And it could be projected on the stage during live gigs.

perzackly.

Shinefront.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 18, 2011, 09:38:12 PM
It's probably a good thing that Shineback won't be playing live, isn't it?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 18, 2011, 09:42:04 PM
That's the storyboarding sorted then.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 18, 2011, 10:16:54 PM
perzackly.

Shinefront.
:D :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 18, 2011, 10:24:20 PM
I've told facebook of your horrible suggestion. Let that be a lesson to you all!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 18, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Funny, Catherine, I just had a feeling you'd bite...

Who told you I bite?  :-[


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 18, 2011, 10:46:53 PM
(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/duckula.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 18, 2011, 11:12:23 PM
Shouldn't that be in The Count?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 23, 2011, 10:56:33 PM
Simon has mentioned that he's now a BEM artist, so I suppose we should break cover and say who BEM are...

Well, it's JamesA and I, in fact. So a bit of an anticlimax there...;D

I've been wanting to do this for ages, and talking to Simon for quite some time about the possibility of releasing some of his non-Tinyfish material. When he offered me Shineback as the label's first release I jumped at the chance...I've heard some of the music, and trust me - you're in for a treat.

I'm also delighted that James will be my partner in this exciting venture - his huge enthusiasm for music and l33t biz skillz will, I know, bring a lot to the BEM organisation.

At the moment it's just an idea and a basic plan. It won't come fully to life until we release the Shineback album - but in the meantime, here's my thoughts...any comments welcome, as always...

BEM Manifesto

Bad Elephant Music (BEM) is a record label with a difference.

The music industry has changed immeasurably in the last ten years, a change which we at BEM see as good for everyone (with the possible exception of major record company executives!). It's now possible for musicians and songwriters to make professional-quality recordings of their material for very little outlay, and the low costs of production of CDs together with high-quality digital distribution means that releasing an album no longer requires the backing of a Sony or an EMI.

But artists are in the business of creating. Releasing a recording involves a lot if work - getting tracks mastered, arranging for artwork to be produced, sorting out duplication of CDs, advertising, setting up mail order and digital distribution - the list goes on. Musicians want to be free to create, to have the space to make the very best music they can.

This is where BEM will help, Working in very close collaboration with musicians we  bring the results of their creativity to the listener. Not only can we get CDs made and sort out the digital world, we'll publicize and market the music with the enthusiasm of fans.

Because fans is what we are, first and foremost. We know that BEM isn't going to make us rich, and that's not how we measure success. We've got 'day jobs', just like most of the artists we work with, we're not relying on BEM for our livelihood. If we can help bring some great music into the world, cover our costs, make a small profit for the 'talent' and maybe afford the occasional curry, then we'll consider the job done. 

What's In It For Me?

The Music Lover

As fans ourselves we know the thrill of unwrapping a new CD, putting it into the player and hearing it come alive for the first time...the uncovering of new depths with repeated listens...the feeling of satisfaction when the artwork complements the sounds. The demise of the CD has been widely predicted over the last few years, but we think it's a format that's still in great health, and it's the way we prefer to buy music ourselves.

So you will get CDs from us, professionally made and presented, and at a price that's fair for everyone - for you, for the artists and for us. We offer a fast and friendly mail order service, with postage and packing charged at cost, to anywhere in the world. Our returns service is second to none - if you're unlucky enough to get a disc that's defective in any way at all, we'll replace it at our expense, no questions asked.

If you prefer to buy your music as downloads then that's fine by us, and we apply the same quality criteria in the digital realm. We've chosen CDBaby as our partner for downloads, providing high-bitrate (that's good quality) MP3s of all our releases. We also recognize that with downloads you often miss out on the artwork you get with a CD, so we make special versions available on our own website.

Whichever way you like to buy your music, you can be sure of one thing - to BEM, quality music and quality service go hand-in-hand.


The Artist
To us it's all about building relationships. If you sign with BEM you're entering into a partnership with us. We'll talk to you before anyone signs anything to find out what makes you tick, who your audience is, where you want your music to go. Only when both you and we are happy that we can work together will we put pen to paper.

There's no such thing as a 'typical' BEM artist, so there's no standard contract. We arrange things to work for you, tailoring the package to suit. Maybe all you need is someone to arrange for your latest album to be duplicated and distributed. Maybe you need help right from the start, finding a producer and a studio. Maybe you're somewhere in between. We'll work out the right deal for any situation.

We can't promise to make you rich, but we do promise to give you a fair deal. Weasel words like "recoupage", "breakage fees" and "container charges" don't appear in your contract with us, which will be written in plain English, easily understandable by non-lawyers. We'll be investing in your project, and we will expect to get our money back, but we will make sure you understand how that's going to work.

You should expect to get a profit from your music...after all, we do! Our basic model is that once we've recovered our investment (the money we put into production, duplication and marketing) we'll split the profits with you equally. We'll also be absolutely transparent about what we're paying out, so you can see precisely how the business end works. The contract we make with you will cover a specific album or project, with a fixed period of time during which we have sole rights to distribute it. We never own the music itself - you made that, and you deserve to keep it. At the end of the 'distribution period' you'll have the option of staying with us (we hope you will) or being free to sell the music yourself, or through someone else.

Not all musicians perform live, but fortunately there are other ways to promote your music. If you do gigs, then we'll be there, and we'll make sure you have CDs to sell to the punters, but if you don't then we'll look at what we can do with video, internet marketing, the press, and so on. It's in our interests to promote you as much as it's in yours.


And that's it, plain and simple. No hidden agenda.

BEM - music is our passion.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on July 23, 2011, 10:59:50 PM
Must admit I had a alight inkling that might be it, but- great news!

If there's anything any of us can do to help or spread the word, let us know!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 23, 2011, 11:01:02 PM
Ditto - glad to help in any way I can.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 23, 2011, 11:16:49 PM
Gizzajob.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 23, 2011, 11:17:33 PM
Seriously, this is great news, chaps! I'll be happy to help if it's needed in any way, too.  :)

What does BEM stand for, then?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 23, 2011, 11:27:44 PM
That's brilliant news. He did say what it stood for, though I'd love to hear the story behind it. And if an album is shite, does it get bumped to your sister label, BM?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Ash on July 23, 2011, 11:40:36 PM
is the fishtank taking over the prog world for real? first summers end tees and now this?  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 24, 2011, 01:14:19 AM
this is so exciting I need to change my pants.

so, is there a website yet?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 24, 2011, 06:43:55 AM
I'm not reading all that, though I suspect I should have...

Have to admit to being very excited about the possibilities.

And Tiina has agreed to buy a copy of the Shineback album, so we are one step closer to not failing !


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 24, 2011, 08:02:13 AM
I'm not reading all that, though I suspect I should have...
That's exactly the reason why this enterprise is likely to be such a success in business terms ;D

But seriously folks, thanks for all your kind words - it means a great deal to me to have all that goodwill. BEM is all about people...as I said in the manifesto we're very unlikely to make anyone rich, but we can make people happy, I hope - both those who like good music, and those who make it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on July 24, 2011, 08:17:39 AM
as I said in the manifesto we're very unlikely to make anyone rich, but we can make people happy, I hope - both those who like good music, and those who make it.
Which, for me is the most worthwhile cause going.  I wish you every success.  And I hope that soon I'll be sending some money your way.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 24, 2011, 08:24:27 AM
Yeah, get yer finger out, Simon - there's curries waiting to be bought off the back of the profits.

Mmm profiteroles.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 24, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
But just what is the secret of a good profiterole, Antony?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on July 24, 2011, 08:42:53 AM
I'll help out with social media stuff :) (as long as there is curry  ;D )


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 24, 2011, 08:57:25 AM
There's always curry, Matt...I even managed to slip it into the manifesto ;) And thanks for the offer of help - that's very much appreciated, as you actually know what you're doing...

The name is a sort of family in-joke. Ages ago Oliver Postgate made a feature film of Ivor the Engine, which we used to hire on DVD from our local library when Huw was little (though of course, Yvette and I got it out as much for ourselves as anything). The plot revolves around an escaped circus elephant, and as you can imagine much quaint, low-key humour ensues. At one point the elephant won't do what Jones the Steam wants him to, so he says, in exasperated tones, "oh, you're a bad elephant". For some reason this made Yvette and I laugh until we cried, and when I was thinking of a name for my media empire it sort of got stuck in my mind. I've registered badelephant.co.uk, so expect a website in the near future...I'll shortly be commissioning some artwork designs.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on July 24, 2011, 09:48:19 AM
BEM - well that's sorted out your spare time for a while.
Best of luck, now get the launch curry organised.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: MikeEvs on July 24, 2011, 10:24:19 AM
Exiting news best of luck all and if there's anything I can do to help don't hesitate to ask :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 24, 2011, 10:26:00 AM
What does BEM stand for, then?

Oh, sod. Late night, poor eyes, illiterate, etc. etc...  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 24, 2011, 01:10:54 PM
Well, naturally, you've got a built-in street team of sorts here. When we go viral, people will need actual antibiotics.

Shame we don't know any talented artists or photographers.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 24, 2011, 02:26:39 PM
One of the photographers out there seems to want to be ON the stage now, eh, Neil...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 24, 2011, 02:52:07 PM
as I'm sure you're aware, there are several bands out there with variations on the name.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 25, 2011, 09:54:11 AM
Shame we don't know any talented artists or photographers.  ;)
Git.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 25, 2011, 03:58:47 PM
Started to send rough demos over to Robert today for him to begin work upon lyrics. Already completed a slower number called Faultlines that has lyrics and everything guv'nor. Considered putting it up for people to listen to but as it's another quiet track I really didn't want people to think it's an ambient album (very much the opposite in fact).

Paul Tippet and already come back from some proof of concept album artwork and it just looks stunning. Very contemporary and about as far from the ususal prog cover as your likley to get.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 25, 2011, 04:14:51 PM
Wot no shiny dragons ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on July 25, 2011, 04:21:16 PM

Paul Tippet and already come back from some proof of concept album artwork and it just looks stunning. Very contemporary and about as far from the ususal prog cover as your likley to get.  ;D

Having just looked through a large page of contempory prog covers (basically a load of this year's new releases), I can't see what a usual prog cover is, so I'm intrigued.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 25, 2011, 05:48:45 PM
They tend to involve a person standing in a field, or something like that. That's the basic compositional element. And then weird stuff goes on around them, like stars or rainbows in the sky, or some such.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 25, 2011, 06:34:06 PM
Dragons go around them.

Please.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 25, 2011, 07:09:07 PM
I suspect the BEM contract may forbid dragons...James?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on July 25, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
what about capes?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 25, 2011, 08:37:33 PM
No capes!

(http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/e/edna-mode-in-the-incredibles-630-75.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 25, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
Spoilsport!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 07:03:29 AM
Come on, get some perspective here...Simon in a cape?!?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 26, 2011, 07:16:36 AM
It might mitigate the trouser problem.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 26, 2011, 09:12:44 AM
You wish.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on July 26, 2011, 09:51:30 AM
Serious question - will you gig this ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 26, 2011, 10:05:49 AM
I've no immediate plans to take this out live Bert (having way too much fun with Tinyfish to be honest). Shineback is a studio project designed to allow me the chance to do a little musical and visual R&D plus clear the decks of some material that I loved to bits yet didn't fly right for the guys in the band.

That said, the idea of working live with musicians I've come to know and love on the prog scene is a tempting prospect. Maybe some time down the road a ways.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on July 26, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
I wonder what happened to Tommo's charity gig idea.  You going to be part of this with Lee Abraham, I think.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 12:08:59 PM
That said, the idea of working live with musicians I've come to know and love on the prog scene is a tempting prospect. Maybe some time down the road a ways.  ;D
Never fear, Bert - just wait till Simon sees the promotional schedule I've got lined up for him. It'll make Bob Dylan's 'Never Ending Tour' look like a Sunday afternoon out with the family.

As for the band he'll have...well, let's just say I have some reasoning behind this madness....;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: MikeEvs on July 26, 2011, 12:20:01 PM
As for the band he'll have...well, let's just say I have some reasoning behind this madness....;D

What his band will be made up of ex members :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 26, 2011, 12:23:49 PM
As for the band he'll have...well, let's just say I have some reasoning behind this madness....;D

What is band will be made up of ex members :D

Is there a stage big enough ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on July 26, 2011, 02:00:29 PM
That said, the idea of working live with musicians I've come to know and love on the prog scene is a tempting prospect. Maybe some time down the road a ways.  ;D
Never fear, Bert - just wait till Simon sees the promotional schedule I've got lined up for him. It'll make Bob Dylan's 'Never Ending Tour' look like a Sunday afternoon out with the family.


Will he be doing any interviews for podcast DJ's ?  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 26, 2011, 02:35:26 PM
*sticks hand up* Ooh, ooh, please sir. Can I be on Mr Bert's Dead Nobodies? Can I? Can I?  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 26, 2011, 02:42:33 PM
Add me to that list of interviewers... as soon as I figure out how to record one and can think of better questions than, "So... Tinyfish, huh?"


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on July 26, 2011, 02:47:46 PM
Add me to that list of interviewers... as soon as I figure out how to record one and can think of better questions than, "So... Tinyfish, huh?"

Just use Skype and an audio capture application. I bought one that integrates with Skype so that it starts recording as soon as you get an answer and it outputs as two tracks that you can mix them properly so it sounds like a proper conversation. Do you use MAC or PC ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on July 26, 2011, 02:51:58 PM
*sticks hand up* Ooh, ooh, please sir. Can I be on Mr Bert's Dead Nobodies? Can I? Can I?  ;D

Actually, I'd assumed that you would be all signed up to the podcast branch of  Wilf's Global Prog Enterprise (TM)  ;D ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 26, 2011, 02:53:11 PM
"So...Flower Kings, huh" appears to be an excellent question


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 26, 2011, 03:12:50 PM
"Tell me about your upcoming project, Steinbeck. Are you a fan of the author? If I were forced to read a book, should it be "Grapes" or "Mice"?"


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on July 26, 2011, 03:17:20 PM
"And which do you prefer - mice or men?"


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 26, 2011, 03:24:26 PM
Can I just ask you about it wheen I see you. I don't have a podcast bbut I do so hate to feel left out.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 26, 2011, 03:31:58 PM
This is sass right? You guys are sassing me.  ;)

Oh and Gonz, I'd love to chat with you mate if you are up for it. As for recording via Skype, there is a very easy way of getting around that thin quality telephone conversation which Wilf told me a while back. It's very simple but effective.

If the person at the other end has any means of recording their own voice, get them to record their end of the conversation and ask for them to send you a copy of their audio file. Then all you have to do it match up their recording with your recording and hey presto! It sounds like the two of you are chatting in the same room together.

Wilf's a clever guy.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 26, 2011, 03:39:49 PM
I have Skype (though I've never used it) and in-room recording capability. There are a number of free apps for recording Skype calls that I could download, but as you said, if you can record your end of the conversation and send it over, I can match up the files or better yet, change my questions so your answers make you sound like a nutter.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on July 26, 2011, 03:44:36 PM
"Shouldn't be too difficult" comes to mind.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on July 26, 2011, 03:51:44 PM
...I can match up the files or better yet, change my questions so your answers make you sound like a nutter.  ;D
You won't have to try too hard sir.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 26, 2011, 04:03:12 PM
Indeed, that's not a challenge at all! Changing the questions so that Simon comes over as sounding almost sane would be far harder.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 26, 2011, 04:08:17 PM
His lawyers will want to vet all interviews before broadcast...and then just give up in despair...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 04:21:16 PM
Simon and I discussed interviews, and I'll be whoring him out to everyone who's interested, but not on The European Perspective - that seems a bit self-serving and cozy. Gonz, you'd be perfect to to one for DLBN, I would say, as Shineback pretty much defines crossover, though from what to what is arguable :)

Bert too, of course, and hopefully Geoff Banks, Ian Fairholm, Cliff Pearson and maybe my new friend, Steve Davis...

Watch Godfrey dance, boys and girls ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 04:25:58 PM
Wilf's a clever guy.
You're just saying that because I own you, Simon ;)

I use a free Skype plugin called MP3 Skype Recorder when it's difficult to record both ends of the conversation 'locally'. It, er, records Skype chats and turns them into MP3s, with each side in it's own channel, like wot Bert does. I then use Audacity to 'mix' it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 26, 2011, 04:32:00 PM
Simon and I discussed interviews, and I'll be whoring him out to everyone who's interested, but not on The European Perspective - that seems a bit self-serving and cozy. Gonz, you'd be perfect to to one for DLBN, I would say, as Shineback pretty much defines crossover, though from what to what is arguable :)

Bert too, of course, and hopefully Geoff Banks, Ian Fairholm, Cliff Pearson and maybe my new friend, Steve Davis...

Watch Godfrey dance, boys and girls ;)

I can think of at least a couple more...though I am not sure I know who Ian Fairholm is...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 26, 2011, 05:07:57 PM
A late suggestion that's probably irrelevant in light of all this Skype stuff - what about Google+? I had quite a clear chat (from my end, anyway) with Gonzo and Evs on there a few weeks ago.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 26, 2011, 05:09:03 PM
"And which do you prefer - Mouse or real men?"

Self-deprecation is fun.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 05:12:04 PM
I can think of at least a couple more...though I am not sure I know who Ian Fairholm is...
Epileptic Gibbon.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 05:13:42 PM
A late suggestion that's probably irrelevant in light of all this Skype stuff - what about Google+? I had quite a clear chat (from my end, anyway) with Gonzo and Evs on there a few weeks ago.
What is Google+?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on July 26, 2011, 05:19:15 PM
I have Skype (though I've never used it) and in-room recording capability. There are a number of free apps for recording Skype calls that I could download, but as you said, if you can record your end of the conversation and send it over, I can match up the files or better yet, change my questions so your answers make you sound like a nutter.  ;D

Sorry, I meant what Wilf said. This is the one I have used before http://www.ecamm.com/mac/callrecorder/. As Wilf says, it records the conversation as two mono channels, which you can then mix in whatever mixer you use, so you can adjust the EQ etc for each channel independently so it sounds like a conversation where both participants speak at the same volume, before dropping it into your overall podcast mix, from whence of course you can then EQ it further if req'd.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on July 26, 2011, 05:19:55 PM
A late suggestion that's probably irrelevant in light of all this Skype stuff - what about Google+? I had quite a clear chat (from my end, anyway) with Gonzo and Evs on there a few weeks ago.
What is Google+?

Ha ha, very funny Wilf  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 26, 2011, 05:23:07 PM
As Wilf says, it records the conversation as two mono channels, which you can then mix in whatever mixer you use, so you can adjust the EQ etc for each channel independently so it sounds like a conversation where both participants speak at the same volume, before dropping it into your overall podcast mix, from whence of course you can then EQ it further if req'd.

You like your EQ, don't you?  ;)  I'd be adding impressive reverbs, so it sounded like it was recorded in a cathedral, then feed it through an organ plug-in's rotary speaker simulator, then reverse the reverb, then - why are you all backing away? Come on, this stuff is fun! We haven't added a ping-pong delay to make it bounce all over the place yet...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on July 26, 2011, 05:30:23 PM
As Wilf says, it records the conversation as two mono channels, which you can then mix in whatever mixer you use, so you can adjust the EQ etc for each channel independently so it sounds like a conversation where both participants speak at the same volume, before dropping it into your overall podcast mix, from whence of course you can then EQ it further if req'd.

You like your EQ, don't you?  ;)  I'd be adding impressive reverbs, so it sounded like it was recorded in a cathedral, then feed it through an organ plug-in's rotary speaker simulator, then reverse the reverb, then - why are you all backing away? Come on, this stuff is fun! We haven't added a ping-pong delay to make it bounce all over the place yet...

Far be it from me to debate this with a qualified audio engineer, but if you record a skype conversation as 2 x mono channels, then you can EQ them relative to each other, but you then may have then EQ them relative to the podcast too.

Maybe EQ is the wrong phrase, I mean getting the volume to sound the same.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 26, 2011, 05:43:16 PM
Far be it from me to debate this with a qualified audio engineer...

Ahahahahahahaha... Anyhoo, compression might be the best tool for that job.  :)

OH MY GOD HAVE I LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THE LAST THREE YEARS YAY ME someone gizza job.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on July 26, 2011, 06:24:34 PM
A late suggestion that's probably irrelevant in light of all this Skype stuff - what about Google+? I had quite a clear chat (from my end, anyway) with Gonzo and Evs on there a few weeks ago.

Assuming the alleged conversation did indeed occur, then it may indeed have been reasonably clear sounding. And I also had that same thought of using G+ in lieu of Skype. And Wilf - that mp3 recorder was one of the free apps I was looking at earlier and you basically described how I would attempt to tackle the tech end.



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
Maybe EQ is the wrong phrase, I mean getting the volume to sound the same.
Normalisation - the process of evening out any volume differences between the two tracks.

Compression could be used too, but that's only necessary when you've got a 'spiky' waveform...you compress it to even that out, and then use makeup gain to boost the compressed signal to the right level. You do that separately for each channel of speech - or at least, I do.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 06:42:23 PM
And Wilf - that mp3 recorder was one of the free apps I was looking at earlier and you basically described how I would attempt to tackle the tech end.
It's a cute little app - I've used it for most of my interviews. You even get reasonable quality if the person you're talking to is on a phone line and you're using Skype Out - that's how I did my interviews with Jem and David Longdon, neither of whom have Skype.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 26, 2011, 08:32:10 PM
Maybe EQ is the wrong phrase, I mean getting the volume to sound the same.
Normalisation - the process of evening out any volume differences between the two tracks.

Compression could be used too, but that's only necessary when you've got a 'spiky' waveform...you compress it to even that out, and then use makeup gain to boost the compressed signal to the right level.

I knew that.  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 08:32:11 PM
"So...Flower Kings, huh" appears to be an excellent question
Depends on who you are ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 08:33:27 PM
I knew that.  ::)
if you didn't then I'd be very worried!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 26, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
You should be more worried about all the other stuff I don't know about. I am.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 26, 2011, 09:08:48 PM
I can think of at least a couple more...though I am not sure I know who Ian Fairholm is...
Epileptic Gibbon.
That's one I was thinking of  ;D  Another is Silhobbit.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 26, 2011, 09:13:22 PM
Yes, Charlie's great value.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 26, 2011, 11:45:58 PM
He says to always tell your mummy before you go out somewhere.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TzVp4l5lJfo/TZn4bSpGJHI/AAAAAAAAHnQ/_LzEKDlnB-c/s1600/Charley_says.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 26, 2011, 11:52:22 PM
Big cat, tiny fish.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 27, 2011, 12:01:47 AM
I'm calling my band Bigcat.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 27, 2011, 12:09:16 AM
Easy, tiger.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ursula on July 30, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
I'm calling my band Bigcat.


I can hear Tinyfrogs crying now...... :'(


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 30, 2011, 12:52:52 PM
Reverent Mouse and the Weeping Tadpoles.

Now there's a band name for you.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 30, 2011, 03:21:49 PM
I'm calling my band Bigcat.


I can hear Tinyfrogs crying now...... :'(

It was Miniature Frog!  ::)  That's it, they've been disbanded.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 05, 2011, 10:45:53 PM
Sorry for the week's silence boys and girls but I've been away on holidays. I would have said something sooner but I don't believe it's a wise thing to announce on a public forum that your house will be empty for a week do you?   ;)

I hope you've all been well. For my part I spent a good proportion of my holiday on my laptop both writing music and working upon the Shineback storyline. The good news is that I came back with some really cool sounds and tunes plus a major development/shift in the storyline that should help realise the video side of the album too.

More news in a couple or three weeks, plus a significant addition to the Shineback website.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on August 05, 2011, 10:54:10 PM
Who are you?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 05, 2011, 11:09:05 PM
That is a question that remains to be fully answered.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 06, 2011, 12:14:54 AM
(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsB/1662-6420.gif)

"Godfrey's alive?!"

Wotcha, Si. Glad you had a good holiday, mate.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on August 06, 2011, 02:25:47 AM
Beans of coolness.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 06, 2011, 06:13:14 AM
chilled legumes.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 06, 2011, 07:04:52 AM
Let the real spam recommence...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on August 06, 2011, 08:22:47 PM
Glad you had nice hols - I was away too, although Grandma Cholet has a laptop (which I broke - oops) so I was able to check in occasionally - I know what you mean about announcing the absence on a forum - much better to wait until you're back.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 09, 2011, 12:59:36 PM
Worked all night on what might become the first instrumental track I've ever written and intended (in my little career) to release in the form of the somewhat ungainly titled track Here Come The Envoys.

This is one of the numbers where I hope to enlist the services of the very talented and super sexy Matt Stevens to play a bit of left field lead guitar. I've also got the nod from Hen Rogers that he'll be contributing drums to some of the tunes which is very nice of him. Jem has given some of the material a listen and has happily passed me back a big thumbs up. 'Cor...that's propper lovely that is!' were his exact words if I recall. Cheers mate.  ;D

The lyrical concept is still a moving set of goalposts however which is largely to do with the fact that 90% of my concentration is going on producing the music right now. The current idea is that the story will follow a woman who takes a camcorder into her dreams and effectively video blogs her way through her unconcious self with devestating results.

My plan is to edit together some working audio highlights thus far and post them on the Shineback website this weekend.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on August 09, 2011, 01:02:28 PM
Here Come The Envoys - is that a bit like Here Come The Girls, but with a more United Nations feel about it?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 09, 2011, 01:04:47 PM
Pretty much. At least I wasn't using any Warm Jets when I throught of the title.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 09, 2011, 01:19:09 PM
Hen mentioned there had been texts  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on August 09, 2011, 04:01:30 PM
Sounds great.  Indeed so much soi that I'm sure that it'll sound great.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 09, 2011, 06:03:49 PM
Simon's really whoring all the talent with this one.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 09, 2011, 10:04:31 PM
This is getting frightening. I completed the music to not one but two songs this evening (Here Come The Envoys and Crush Culture). I just can't stop producing music (almost like it's writing itself). Waiting on Matt Stevens to send me his email address so I can pass an MP3 copy of the former track over to him.

We've finally reached a consensus about the storyline and it will indeed follow the path stated above about a woman who takes a video camera into her dreams. The subject matter is pretty dark stuff it has to be said and I wouldn't advise that it be played to any young ones (not that they'd probably understand some of the subject matter I guess).


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 09, 2011, 10:09:18 PM
Oh, blimey, we'd better get that record label started...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 10, 2011, 02:07:24 AM
cool.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on August 10, 2011, 06:17:50 AM
Marvelous.
Obviously the way to get Simon going is to put him in isolation.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on August 10, 2011, 08:01:55 AM
This is getting frightening. I completed the music to not one but two songs this evening (Here Come The Envoys and Crush Culture). I just can't stop producing music (almost like it's writing itself). Waiting on Matt Stevens to send me his email address so I can pass an MP3 copy of the former track over to him.

We've finally reached a consensus about the storyline and it will indeed follow the path stated above about a woman who takes a video camera into her dreams. The subject matter is pretty dark stuff it has to be said and I wouldn't advise that it be played to any young ones (not that they'd probably understand some of the subject matter I guess).

Messaged you my email address :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 10, 2011, 12:45:13 PM
Thank you sir.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: gr8gonzo on August 10, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Very cool when that happens. The creative mojo is strong with this one. Glad to hear.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 12, 2011, 02:06:06 PM
It's a cracking concept. Scary and unsettling and rather splendid.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on August 12, 2011, 03:20:22 PM
Mmm, yummy!

(http://www.williamspork.com/images/roast%20Pork.jpg)



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 12, 2011, 03:24:38 PM
Cracking - not crackling!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 12, 2011, 03:26:20 PM
More food from Satan  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 12, 2011, 03:28:14 PM
I didn't know you were Jewish :-)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 12, 2011, 03:33:34 PM
I didn't know you were Jewish :-)

we haven't seen him in bike shorts yet.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 12, 2011, 03:47:38 PM
Is everyone else on here Catherine in disguise ?  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on August 12, 2011, 04:12:35 PM
I didn't know you were Jewish :-)

we haven't seen him in bike shorts yet.

*struggles not to hoot with laughter in the office on reading this*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 12, 2011, 04:15:09 PM
;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on August 12, 2011, 04:16:30 PM
I didn't know you were Jewish :-)

we haven't seen him in bike shorts yet.

*struggles not to hoot with laughter in the office on reading this*

Oh just let it go, It's Friday afternoon.
What can they do?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 12, 2011, 04:25:29 PM
My previous reply not only still stands, but was instantly proved  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on August 12, 2011, 04:26:19 PM
I expect they would make me explain who SpamBot was and demand photographic evidence and then I would have to show them The Picture.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 12, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
The Picture is probably outside of any and every company policy you might have  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 12, 2011, 10:17:41 PM
As promised. I've stuck up a few rough audio clips on Soundcloud so that people will get a better idea of how the Shineback project is developing.  

http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/shineback-album-audio-teaser (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/shineback-album-audio-teaser)

PS. Simon Nixon (who was nearly the guitarist in Frost* after Johnny Boyes and before John Mitchell) will be joining the ranks of guest artists appearing on the album. Simon is a top bloke and a fantastic guitarist to boot. Bloody Yay!  8)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 12, 2011, 10:26:00 PM
Now that's a teaser and a half...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 12, 2011, 10:39:29 PM
I think we're about to brainwash facebook...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 12, 2011, 10:43:57 PM
Hehe.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 13, 2011, 02:17:56 AM
Oh my Lord...!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Lerxst on August 13, 2011, 08:30:05 AM
As promised. I've stuck up a few rough audio clips on Soundcloud so that people will get a better idea of how the Shineback project is developing.  

http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/shineback-album-audio-teaser (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/shineback-album-audio-teaser)

PS. Simon Nixon (who was nearly the guitarist in Frost* after Johnny Boyes and before John Mitchell) will be joining the ranks of guest artists appearing on the album. Simon is a top bloke and a fantastic guitarist to boot. Bloody Yay!  8)

Thanks for the intro Simon, I promise to be a good boy, eat my cereal every day and deliver the goods on the album :)
Have a great weekend all!
Simon N


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 13, 2011, 08:39:19 AM
You're working for BEM now, Simon, so keep that cereal going ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 13, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
Hi there, Simon! The new one, I mean. I was sure you were Lerxst from the Frost* forum, nice to see you on here!  :)  (I'm expecting great things if you share the name of the Lord Lifeson.  ;) )


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 13, 2011, 04:26:24 PM
hey, Lerxst!!  welcome to the 'Tank!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 13, 2011, 04:26:56 PM
oh, and Simon (G, that is) this sounds great!  can't wait to hear more!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Lerxst on August 13, 2011, 06:20:48 PM
@Mouse - yes it is the one and the same from the FROST* forum

@Rog - hello mate long time no speak hope you are well :)

This will of course be my second collaboration with Simon G as we both appeared on Lee Abraham's Black and White album on the track "The Mirror" - the difference is we didn't know we were collaborating on the same track until it was mixed :)



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 13, 2011, 06:26:26 PM
That was a damn fine track.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on August 13, 2011, 07:09:37 PM
Yes - the best track on a really good album.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 13, 2011, 07:27:09 PM
Bloody hell...I've just been listening to the latest demo from the Shineback album. This is going to be a monster.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Nellie on August 13, 2011, 08:56:50 PM
Bloody hell...I've just been listening to the latest demo from the Shineback album. This is going to be a monster.
I tried to listen but it broke my laptop >:(


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 13, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
This will of course be my second collaboration with Simon G as we both appeared on Lee Abraham's Black and White album on the track "The Mirror" - the difference is we didn't know we were collaborating on the same track until it was mixed :)
hehe - yes but the lack of information didn't hurt any when you consider how good that track turned out. Glad to have been in such fine company.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 13, 2011, 11:15:57 PM
Bloody hell...I've just been listening to the latest demo from the Shineback album.

I think I'll give the new Manning album another spin...  :P


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 14, 2011, 02:04:04 AM
I am only listening to albums which have been released to the general public.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 14, 2011, 03:47:43 AM
Wilf and I are special.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on August 14, 2011, 05:24:57 AM
In so many ways  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 14, 2011, 07:23:15 AM
I am only listening to albums which have been released to the general public.
It can't continue that way ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on August 16, 2011, 11:03:04 PM
Just managed to listen to the sampler and this sounds like it will be RIGHT up my street... Maybe electro-prog crossover will be the next big thing and I will enter some golden age where my two favourite genres merge into one glorious whole.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 17, 2011, 12:36:38 AM
Maybe electro-prog crossover will be the next big thing and I will enter some golden age where my two favourite genres merge into one glorious whole.

"Rimmer, you already are one glorious hole."

Sorry, I was reminded of the line.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 17, 2011, 10:01:47 AM
Just managed to listen to the sampler and this sounds like it will be RIGHT up my street... Maybe electro-prog crossover will be the next big thing and I will enter some golden age where my two favourite genres merge into one glorious whole.
Speaking of electro prog...we have work to do, Mr. Hendry!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on August 17, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
Just managed to listen to the sampler and this sounds like it will be RIGHT up my street... Maybe electro-prog crossover will be the next big thing and I will enter some golden age where my two favourite genres merge into one glorious whole.
Speaking of electro prog...we have work to do, Mr. Hendry!

Indeed! Talk to you at the Curry?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 17, 2011, 03:52:01 PM
I'm happy because I've finally absorbed the songs sufficiently to write some words :-)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 17, 2011, 03:53:36 PM
Are those words "the horror" ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 17, 2011, 04:08:37 PM
No, although one of them was "guts".


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 17, 2011, 04:16:29 PM
Guts, huts, nuts, buts, tuts, shuts, cuts, ruts, putts, juts, mutts and, at a stretch, yachts. There you go, Robert.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 17, 2011, 07:08:16 PM
Just managed to listen to the sampler and this sounds like it will be RIGHT up my street... Maybe electro-prog crossover will be the next big thing and I will enter some golden age where my two favourite genres merge into one glorious whole.
Speaking of electro prog...we have work to do, Mr. Hendry!

Indeed! Talk to you at the Curry?
That sounds like a superb plan :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 18, 2011, 11:19:53 AM
Maybe this should be listed in the Gear Thread but the Shineback album will see the arrival centre stage of a previously underused item of software called Melodyne made by a German company called Celemony.

Melodyne began life as a pitch correction tool used in a similar way to Auto-Tune. You sing a duff note and it can automatically correct the note to make it sound in tune. What has happened over the past three years or so is that as Melodyne became more sophisticated, artists begand to realise that it was a creative tool in it's own right both in creating new sounds and also as an uber powerful arrangement tool.

I've owned a copy of this bit of kit for years but been a bit sniffy about it thinking that all you needed to do was 'sing it right' and you would have no need of such technical jiggery pokery. The situation changed with Shineback as unlike Tinyfish where I had a lot of time in which to perfect performances, the Shineback lead times are much smaller due to the fact that I'm also working on new Tinyfish material as well.

As time is short, I'm forced to employ technology such as Melodyne to speed up the process. What I hadn’t banked upon was the sheer creative scope these bits of software could bring to the table not at least in terms of sound design. Vocals can become lead instruments or basslines and even drums can be transformed into chord sequences. The results have been impressive to say the least.

The practical upshot is that it isn’t really saving me any time, but it is changing the sounds I used in all sorts of interesting ways.

More to follow in the next few weeks (hopefully now Rob has found his creative feet and is now contributing lyrics, I'll be able to post a demo song up on the Shineback website soon).

A video blog outlining the project is also imminent. :)


 


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 18, 2011, 11:40:38 AM
made by a German company called Celemony.

Should be a Japanes company, Shilrey.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 18, 2011, 12:08:26 PM
Melodyne began life as a pitch correction tool used in a similar way to Auto-Tune. You sing a duff note and it can automatically correct the note to make it sound in tune.
Great. It's Autotune. Our first release is going to sound like sodding Cher

;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 18, 2011, 12:18:26 PM
I'm not sure what sodding Cher would sound like.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on August 18, 2011, 12:32:15 PM
Isn't she attempting to find out in the "If I Could Turn Back Time" video?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 18, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
Probably sounds a little higher-pitched.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 05:01:58 PM
I'm not sure what sodding Cher would sound like.

I'm glad that this is the first post at the top of this page.  :D

I'm all for pitch correction being used in interesting and inventive ways, but it has to be used very, very carefully if it is to be used to 'fix' a lead vocal, or else it'll sound Radio 1 worthy. *shudders*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 18, 2011, 05:24:41 PM
Cheating=progress. Just ask any corporation.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 05:58:15 PM
Nothing wrong with cheating, as long as it doesn't sound sh*te.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 18, 2011, 06:35:20 PM
They taught you well on that course, clearly. We need smart young fellows like you workin' for da Elephant.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 08:42:41 PM
I worked for an elephant once. It was hard work, but I managed to rise to the tusk.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 18, 2011, 08:49:34 PM
You're sacked. And we haven't even formally employed you yet. Impressive ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 09:13:12 PM
You can't fire me, I quit!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 18, 2011, 09:18:50 PM
Too late.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 09:24:41 PM
That's for the courts to decide.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on August 18, 2011, 09:25:50 PM
Christ. You don't want to be throwing yourself on the mercy of the courts at the moment. Getting in with the spirit of the age, the magistrates seem to have gone feral.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 18, 2011, 09:26:29 PM
Also, you know our lawyer, and what he's capable of. You don't want this to end up in the courts ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 18, 2011, 09:29:54 PM
You can't fire me, I quilt!
That may get you a little way with some on here...but it's not going to save you.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 09:30:54 PM
Oh dear, they're all ganging up on me...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 18, 2011, 09:32:01 PM
Welcome to the real world, laddie ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 09:34:15 PM
Bah. I've dealt with that since primary school.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 18, 2011, 09:35:18 PM
That's a couple of years then...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 09:38:09 PM
Ahhhh, to be young feels soooo good...!  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 18, 2011, 09:52:30 PM
*Weeps*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 18, 2011, 10:06:04 PM
You hang around with some dodgy people, Godfrey.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 18, 2011, 10:09:18 PM
I think he was weeping at the behaviour of the yoof  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 19, 2011, 08:52:40 AM
I'm a sad old Hector.

(http://www.toonhound.com/hector-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 19, 2011, 09:01:02 AM
He was a bit of a nasty old bastard, was Hector. Mind, the frog was enough to drive anyone to distraction.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on August 19, 2011, 09:01:49 AM
(http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/20070424-dill-the-dog-2.jpg)

Im Dill the Dog - I'm a dog called Dill


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on August 19, 2011, 09:08:31 AM
Normal service resumed.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 19, 2011, 11:16:41 AM
(http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/20070424-dill-the-dog-2.jpg)

Im Dill the Dog - I'm a dog called Dill
Surely that was The Herbs sir. Is this some kind of 70s children's TV Mashups? Will we be seeing a summer blockbuster in the making?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 19, 2011, 11:21:48 AM
Surely that was The Herbs sir. Is this some kind of 70s children's TV Mashups? Will we be seeing a summer blockbuster in the making?
Maybe we should bag the rights for the soundtrack.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 19, 2011, 11:29:58 AM
The Shineback album IS that soundtrack!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 19, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
:D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 20, 2011, 09:00:39 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2LYPMNFLlHw/TJ-63Cwz0VI/AAAAAAAAAHY/FlVHFLMobTo/s1600/parsley-6.jpg)

Rawr.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 20, 2011, 08:45:34 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 22, 2011, 10:48:26 PM
As Simon announced at the curry last night, if I can bugger up Manning's new album, I might be able to bugger up this, too.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 23, 2011, 06:29:43 AM
Guy's a pussycat compared to the 'management' style you'll be dealing with on this one, sonny. Any mistake will be your last.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 23, 2011, 08:48:19 AM
Plus you will be required to wear these pants at all times.

(http://community.klipsch.com/forums/storage/9/676062/dr_who_pants-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 23, 2011, 10:26:44 AM
To quote John 'I Love Dr. Who' Maxfield, who is our resident tech bunny, "those pants are really cool".


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 23, 2011, 10:33:40 AM
Do I have to wear them on the outside of my trousers so that you know I'm wearing them?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 23, 2011, 10:41:52 AM
No, you wear them on your head, particularly when we're out having curry.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on August 23, 2011, 10:52:00 AM
our resident tech bunny

Is this him?

(http://letterstotelevision.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/dont-scare-the-hare.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 23, 2011, 09:08:37 PM
...was him?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 25, 2011, 02:49:30 PM
This weekend will see me working on a new track called Fears Aren't Toys. If all goes well, this will be the track that features Simon Nixon on guitar and hopefully Hen Rogers on drums as well.

I'm also working on a faux diary written by the central character (Dora) which I hope to begin posting on the Shineback site in September.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 25, 2011, 02:55:20 PM
Oooooh! Do I get to boss Rogers around? Oh please, Mr. Godfrey, please!  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 25, 2011, 03:58:13 PM
You can try if you like. Just let Wilf and I pull up a chair and get something cold to drink while we watch.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 25, 2011, 04:02:33 PM
Popcorn. I want popcorn.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 25, 2011, 04:27:29 PM
Yay! My nickname in school was 'Knuckles', you know.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 25, 2011, 06:39:28 PM
Your nickname on this project will be something different.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 25, 2011, 08:16:42 PM
I look forward to which insult you've chosen as my nickname.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 25, 2011, 08:23:40 PM
Maybe we won't give you a nickname.  Tim.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 25, 2011, 08:25:51 PM
Aw, my identity...  :(


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 25, 2011, 08:32:50 PM
We are at home to Mr Cruelty.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 25, 2011, 08:44:52 PM
We make Mr. Cruelty look like a pussy.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 25, 2011, 09:35:47 PM
Maybe Tim can have a secret identity.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 25, 2011, 09:39:23 PM
There are some who call him...Tim.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 25, 2011, 10:15:02 PM
as an aside, Simon Nixon's band Neptune's Rain is very good!  it's got VitP on bass!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Lerxst on August 25, 2011, 10:59:27 PM
This weekend will see me working on a new track called Fears Aren't Toys. If all goes well, this will be the track that features Simon Nixon on guitar and hopefully Hen Rogers on drums as well.

I'm also working on a faux diary written by the central character (Dora) which I hope to begin posting on the Shineback site in September.


Hoorah!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Lerxst on August 25, 2011, 11:02:50 PM
as an aside, Simon Nixon's band Neptune's Rain is very good!  it's got VitP on bass!

Thank you Sir!
And indeed said VitP does thump the bass - also makes album artwork cheaper but don't tell him that :)

If you would all care to participate in some listening please go to
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Neptunes-Rain/101689719937574

and press "Like"

:)

Simon


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 25, 2011, 11:05:23 PM
Been there, Liked that  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 25, 2011, 11:11:54 PM
yup!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 26, 2011, 09:06:40 AM
Me too!

It's going to be a real pleasue to have Simon on the album and to have their bassist create the Shineback album artwork as well.

Group hug!

...now every bloke stand back quickly after the hug and cough in a deep, manly voice then talk about football and cars.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 26, 2011, 09:48:06 AM
American football and American cars. Even more manlier.  ;)

I shall proceed to the Neptune Rain Facebook page at the next best opportunity!

And indeed said VitP does thump the bass - also makes album artwork cheaper but don't tell him that :)

Shouldn't that be "slappin' da bass!"  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 26, 2011, 09:50:39 AM
Slappin' da Mouse.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 04, 2011, 06:04:16 PM
Fantastic day working with Matt Stevens on some of the Shineback material. Matt and I spent the afternoon having a giggle (plus lots of tea) and while he's an incredibly friendly and engaging chap to know whilst sitting down and relaxing on the sofa, once you put him behind that telecaster of his a fire seems to ignite in those eyes of and the music which then erupts from those fingers is truly demonic stuff.

Plonking all his many boxes of tricks onto the floor of the Crows Nest, he pulled out all the sonic and melodic stops for three tracks; Bedlam Days, Here Come The Envoys and the album's title track Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/2801019166_b4f5326b73.jpg)

Genuinely innovative work by the big man from Tottenham boys and girls. Matt left the studio having made this album a much better thing to behold. Cheers mate.  :) 8)

(http://www.allaboutjazz.com/media/large/3/c/5/fc6017e17d65804681110006f71f1.jpg)



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 04, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
Cooooooool.  8)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on September 04, 2011, 06:17:34 PM
I'm glad it went well - Matt is (1) a lovely guy and (2) extremely talented.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 04, 2011, 06:18:09 PM
(3) a giant.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 04, 2011, 06:19:16 PM
Which box does he hide the tapes in ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on September 04, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
(3) a giant.
It was good fun with Matt in my Fiat Panda.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on September 04, 2011, 06:26:49 PM
and he wears cool shoes.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 04, 2011, 06:36:30 PM
That's not the Crow's Nest ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 04, 2011, 09:58:14 PM
It's an artist's impression.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 04, 2011, 10:02:11 PM
What of ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 04, 2011, 10:35:04 PM
Expectation?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 04, 2011, 10:59:58 PM
Ooh good answer.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 04, 2011, 11:23:12 PM
This is the sort of high quality thinking that you need on Shineback. All this and more can be at your beck and call for a mere tuna sandwich.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 04, 2011, 11:30:11 PM
Earlier you said all we had to do was wave it...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 05, 2011, 12:28:05 AM
My price has risen. Blame the state of the economy.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on September 05, 2011, 03:05:35 PM
Fantastic day working with Matt Stevens on some of the Shineback material. Matt and I spent the afternoon having a giggle (plus lots of tea) and while he's an incredibly friendly and engaging chap to know whilst sitting down and relaxing on the sofa, once you put him behind that telecaster of his a fire seems to ignite in those eyes of and the music which then erupts from those fingers is truly demonic stuff.

Plonking all his many boxes of tricks onto the floor of the Crows Nest, he pulled out all the sonic and melodic stops for three tracks; Bedlam Days, Here Come The Envoys and the album's title track Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/2801019166_b4f5326b73.jpg)

Genuinely innovative work by the big man from Tottenham boys and girls. Matt left the studio having made this album a much better thing to behold. Cheers mate.  :) 8)

(http://www.allaboutjazz.com/media/large/3/c/5/fc6017e17d65804681110006f71f1.jpg)


Thanks loads for a great day and I think the tracks sound amazing (not due to my gubbins, the work is all there already). This is going to be a great record. Very excited to hear the final result.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 05, 2011, 03:11:53 PM
Very excited to hear the final result.


I hope you've got good speakers.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 05, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
We need to have a chat about that :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 05, 2011, 03:20:29 PM
I suspect the SOP is to send me an email containing numbers  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 05, 2011, 03:35:02 PM
That'll likely be next weekend - in the meantime, I will ask inane legal questions ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 05, 2011, 03:55:17 PM
Oh, it's a work from work type scenario.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 05, 2011, 04:10:45 PM
Precisely! Ever been a busman? ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 05, 2011, 04:24:17 PM
It's ages since I've been on holiday properly.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 05, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
I hope you're not going to Peru on a bus.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 05, 2011, 04:33:51 PM
Might be an airbus.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 05, 2011, 05:21:57 PM
I realised you would answer thus about thirty seconds after I typed the original...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on September 06, 2011, 08:06:18 AM
SpamBot's SO predictable...  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 06, 2011, 08:11:03 AM
SpamBot's SO predictable...  ::)
After the event...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: TheRealMrBadger on September 06, 2011, 09:21:54 PM
Some of the songs were submitted for The Big Red Spark but were felt to be not really suitable either in style or sound, others were simply underdeveloped tunes which I have been steadily working upon in the background during quiet moments in order to test some of the more esoteric limits of both Pro Tools and myself.
So, what you're saying, Simon (whoever you are) is that you're making an album of left-over bits which were rejected by a progressive rock band? Can't wait...

What idiots are prepared to release such an undertaking?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 06, 2011, 09:24:47 PM
A record label which does not really exist, but don't tell anyone.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: TheRealMrBadger on September 06, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
It'll never wash.

Right, well, it's been lovely and all, but it's nighttime and I have things to do to people. Please excuse me if I don't hurry back, but I can feel my brain atrophying just from reading a small part of the cack you folk seem to enjoy.

Night night, and if you hear a snuffling noise followed by your neighbour screaming...it could be me.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 06, 2011, 09:29:49 PM
More likely to be leaves on the track.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on September 07, 2011, 12:12:04 AM
seems like Mr. Badger has some anger issues.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on September 07, 2011, 06:10:26 AM
I like Anger - my favourite piece of music ever but any band.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 07, 2011, 06:42:31 AM
seems like Mr. Badger has some anger issues.
It's more the case that we have an issue dealing with him! :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 07, 2011, 12:47:02 PM
I thought that would be easy - you give him whatever he wants, you continue to be alive.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 07, 2011, 12:58:09 PM
That's pretty much the case, he won't actually kill you so long as you're doing something useful for him.

It's a policy we've adopted with artists and employees at BEM. Mr. B. has expressed an interest in being a sleeping partner. But only sleeping during the day, of course, most of his best work is done during hours of darkness.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on September 07, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
So, along with the aforementioned 'Passengers' (which of course you've all now heard on the latest episode of TEP, haven't you?), I had a chance to hear some other snippets of work in progress at Wilf towers the other day...

And I think it would be safe to say that this is my new most anticipated album since... oooh... 'Calling All Stations'! And I think it's safe to say that it'll be a darn sight more inventive and exciting than that turgid piece of crud.

I really love the direction Simon's going in with the 'straight ahead songs' meets electro-pop meets prog. Mixing all my most favouritest things into one wonderful sound...

 :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 07, 2011, 01:30:41 PM
We will quote you on that.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on September 07, 2011, 01:36:09 PM
I can see it on the CD sticker now:

"A darn sight more inventive than that turgid piece of crud Calling All Stations." (James Hendry, renowned internet DJ)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 07, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
We will be using the word 'guru', of course, because people buy things that gurus tell them to buy


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 07, 2011, 03:57:08 PM
I really love the direction Simon's going in with the 'straight ahead songs' meets electro-pop meets prog. Mixing all my most favouritest things into one wonderful sound...

 :)
Cheers sir, your vote of confidence is much appreciated although I have to admit now that the album's title track is over nine minutes long.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 07, 2011, 04:06:01 PM
I really love the direction Simon's going in with the 'straight ahead songs' meets electro-pop meets prog. Mixing all my most favouritest things into one wonderful sound...

 :)
Cheers sir, your vote of confidence is much appreciated although I have to admit now that the album's title track is over nine minutes long.  ;D

Well, it is for now...  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 07, 2011, 04:52:55 PM
Yep.  We'll soon get it up to 19.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 07, 2011, 05:24:25 PM
Yep.  We'll soon get it up to 19.
You've got to have at least one epic, innit?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 07, 2011, 06:30:32 PM
Grendel+ will bring in the Prog dollar.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 07, 2011, 07:04:55 PM
My God, you two really are monsters...  :o


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 07, 2011, 07:19:11 PM
You ain't seen nothing yet.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 07, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
Daaaahn! Daaaahn! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7miRCLeFSJo)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: TheRealMrBadger on September 07, 2011, 08:04:59 PM
My God, you two really are monsters...  :o
They're morons, the pair of them. It's all posturing, else they wouldn't have employed me to be their 'enforcer'. I'll be in the studio all the time, yeah?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 07, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
What studio ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 07, 2011, 09:39:56 PM
This one, Shirley?

(http://www.allaboutjazz.com/media/large/3/c/5/fc6017e17d65804681110006f71f1.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 07, 2011, 09:51:06 PM
That's not a real studio - it's all done with backing tapes.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on September 07, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
Electro Grendel- yesss!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 07, 2011, 11:27:55 PM
I did orchestral Grendel a while back.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 22, 2011, 03:13:48 PM
More Shineback news. I've spoken to both Paul Tippet and Bo Hansen regarding the proposed album cover, while hanging out with everyone at Dec Burke's Peel gig last weekend. We had a lot of great ideas and I for one am particularly buzzed that these guys are involved with the project because you know they are going to deliver the goods big time.  :)

I also got to have a long natter with Mouse about his production duites and the timescales were are looking at so that he knows roughly when he needs to clamber onto a train and make his way down to the smoke.

Still awaiting the arrival of the new studio monitors (thank you GAK, you useless bunch of tossers) but happily, the music work is still getting done via my trusty old Tannoys. I'm laying down bass tracks for Xo Va Yu (now re-titled Tanin & Karee) and the title track Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed this week.

I'll be compiling all the footage from the Shineback writing sessions for my first video blog in the next few weeks which should make the holding page a more interesting place to visit.  ;)



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 22, 2011, 03:28:30 PM
I also got to have a long natter with Mouse about his production duites and the timescales were are looking at so that he knows roughly when he needs to clamber onto a train and make his way down to the smoke.

Message recieved and mostly understood; I still don't know how me wearing a purple frock is going to enhance the overall sound quality of the album.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 22, 2011, 04:40:04 PM
Message recieved and mostly understood; I still don't know how me wearing a purple frock is going to enhance the overall sound quality of the album.
Don't ask questions and do as you're told. We invested a lot in that dress.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 22, 2011, 04:51:10 PM
More than we have in the album, certainly.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on September 22, 2011, 05:47:53 PM
Message recieved and mostly understood; I still don't know how me wearing a purple frock is going to enhance the overall sound quality of the album.
Don't ask questions and do as you're told. We invested a lot in that dress.

Is it the special frilly one, with lots of sequins on it?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 22, 2011, 06:06:43 PM
Those sequins resonate at a very precise frequency, thus ensuring that the high frequencies of all the crash cymbals do not spill over into the other percussion tracks. We did something similar on my course, but with beetles instead of sequins because some knob from the first year nicked them.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 22, 2011, 09:19:28 PM
More than we have in the album, certainly.
No point throwing good money after bad...;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 22, 2011, 09:20:22 PM
Those sequins resonate at a very precise frequency, thus ensuring that the high frequencies of all the crash cymbals do not spill over into the other percussion tracks. We did something similar on my course, but with beetles instead of sequins because some knob from the first year nicked them.
That's nonsense Tim, and you know it. We're making you wear the dress so we can laugh at you.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on September 22, 2011, 10:00:22 PM
Pix, or it didn't happen.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 22, 2011, 10:22:27 PM
Ah, sh*t.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 25, 2011, 04:44:08 PM
Memory House #1 - Shineback video blog Sept 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Me7krCeUAo)

These new blogs are designed to give you all a taste of how things are coming together here at the Crow's Nest but due to the duration taken in actually writing the album, this first Shineback video blog has taken a bit of time to edit and upload. I hope nobody minds the delay in getting it out there.

Part one of The Memory House goes back a few months and deals with the very first day of work on the Shineback album. A big thank you to Pedro who gave me the the idea for this blog after he commented that not many people showed the creative process in action. In the light of that, I figured it might be cool to give you all a glimpse into what happens when there is absolutely nothing written and how I usually start the process of creating 60 minutes of entirely new music.

More to follow in coming weeks and months I hope.  :)

 


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on September 25, 2011, 05:33:58 PM
fun!!

bye!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 25, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
Nice to see you watched it to the end.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on September 25, 2011, 05:44:07 PM
Very interesting, Simon.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: MikeEvs on September 25, 2011, 07:59:53 PM
Thanks Simon interesting to see the beginning of the process :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on September 25, 2011, 08:02:58 PM
Good stuff. You make it look so easy ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on September 25, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
Thanks so much for that, looking forward to more like that. :D

I must admit I really thought that the intro ("I'm going to show how I go about it") would be followed by a cut sequence punchline of you; asleep, on the loo, taking velcro apart and then putting it back together, examining a comedy vegetable, poping bubble wrap, on the loo again, permutations of the above and so on....
Way to dodge the cliché! :)

Tis surely a bumper season for good stuff right now. :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 25, 2011, 10:52:32 PM
The velcro and the vegetables appear in part 2.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 25, 2011, 11:12:26 PM
A very interesting video, Simon, fully of little details that I really enjoy seeing explained ('cos I'm a sad b*stard). Looking forward to the second installment.

Now, in my job as... whatever it is, I feel I should tell you to GET BACK TO WORK!

 ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on September 25, 2011, 11:17:43 PM
Throw some Abba cassettes into the bag....


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Jim on September 26, 2011, 05:16:03 AM
If Oakfoot ever sees the light of day again I'd like it to be a Tinyfish number.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 26, 2011, 08:39:21 AM
I like your thinking sir.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on September 26, 2011, 09:47:11 AM
A very interesting video, Simon, fully of little details that I really enjoy seeing explained ('cos I'm a sad b*stard). Looking forward to the second installment.

Now, in my job as... whatever it is, I feel I should tell you to GET BACK TO WORK!

 ;)

Those details are important !!(and i am also a proud sad bastard!!)

Top video Simon :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 26, 2011, 11:14:50 AM
Part 2: The properties of Cold War Military Instruments between 1963 - 1972 and their impact on the design of the modern beach bikini.

(http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/35845.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on September 26, 2011, 12:46:24 PM
Part 2: The properties of Cold War Military Instruments between 1963 - 1972 and their impact on the design of the modern beach bikini.

(http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/35845.jpg)


phwoarrr and further more, phwoarr  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 26, 2011, 12:53:05 PM
Thank goodness for the o or we would have been at phwar


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 26, 2011, 01:55:44 PM
phwoarrr and further more, phwoarr  ;D
I know, Cold War militaria does that to me too.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on September 26, 2011, 02:04:41 PM
Frankie Say
WAR!
Take a cold shower


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 26, 2011, 02:11:20 PM
Part 2: The properties of Cold War Military Instruments between 1963 - 1972 and their impact on the design of the modern beach bikini.

(http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/35845.jpg)
This is going to be a GREAT album...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on September 26, 2011, 02:18:16 PM
I can see a couple of big hits already.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 26, 2011, 02:21:18 PM
I sense the female contingent of this forum already going:  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on September 26, 2011, 02:21:31 PM
Are you going to put something for the laydeez on it as well?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 26, 2011, 02:25:31 PM
(http://s11.lucyphotos.com/images/orig/2/h/2hgwikgxsbycsxyi.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on September 26, 2011, 04:20:05 PM
"Girls, girls, don't fight..."


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on September 26, 2011, 05:09:15 PM
I was thinking more like this...

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kovrbwZNhF1qzlhn9o1_400.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 26, 2011, 05:35:12 PM
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/8/88167/1746174-badger_super.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 26, 2011, 05:37:16 PM
One of the captions underneath one of the options for various sizes of that picture read "RAMSEY PORN DWARF EATEN BY BADGER". Nice to see they spelt his name wrong again.  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on September 26, 2011, 05:47:52 PM
*slowly backs out of thread*

It's all gone a bit funny in here...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 26, 2011, 06:04:14 PM
You've only just realised? How long have you been on this forum?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on September 26, 2011, 06:05:44 PM
You've only just realised? How long have you been on this forum?

I was distracted by the lovely fluffy hamsters!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Jake Worrell on September 26, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
Ow do ladies and gents. Been meaning to post on these ere forums for a while!

I loved the video blog Simon. I can't get 'who's in my house?' out of my head!

Looking forward to seeing more, I love a good 'making of'


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 26, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
I was thinking more like this...

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kovrbwZNhF1qzlhn9o1_400.jpg)

Turn on your gaydar, Catherine.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ursula on September 26, 2011, 08:39:16 PM
I was thinking more like this...

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kovrbwZNhF1qzlhn9o1_400.jpg)

Turn on your gaydar, Catherine.


Noooooo Surely not       :(


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 26, 2011, 08:40:23 PM
And now the seeds of doubt are sown  8)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on September 26, 2011, 08:40:52 PM
Part 2: The properties of Cold War Military Instruments between 1963 - 1972 and their impact on the design of the modern beach bikini.

(http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/35845.jpg)


what guitar?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on September 26, 2011, 08:41:04 PM
welcome, Jake!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 26, 2011, 09:34:08 PM
Ow do ladies and gents. Been meaning to post on these ere forums for a while!

I loved the video blog Simon. I can't get 'who's in my house?' out of my head!

Looking forward to seeing more, I love a good 'making of'
Aww cheers Jake. Nice to have you on board and glad you liked the music. If all goes well, some of that music might surface in either the Shineback or Tinyfish material in the near future I suspect.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on September 26, 2011, 09:39:50 PM
Ow do ladies and gents. Been meaning to post on these ere forums for a while!

I loved the video blog Simon. I can't get 'who's in my house?' out of my head!

Looking forward to seeing more, I love a good 'making of'
Aww cheers Jake. Nice to have you on board and glad you liked the music. If all goes well, some of that music might surface in either the Shineback or Tinyfish material in the near future I suspect.  :)

Oh and also everyone who buys the album gets a free swimsuit model too*

(* May be a lie. Or wishful thinking. Other swimsuit models are available)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 26, 2011, 10:01:46 PM
What swimsuit ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 26, 2011, 10:16:58 PM
What-ho, Jake!  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on September 26, 2011, 10:49:23 PM
I was thinking more like this...

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kovrbwZNhF1qzlhn9o1_400.jpg)

Turn on your gaydar, Catherine.

According to a source on the internet, "He was asked by a gay magazine QX if he is interested in guys and he answered that he is very sure that he is not bi and he only likes girls."



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 26, 2011, 11:07:46 PM
Ah, the George Michael defence...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on September 27, 2011, 05:46:02 AM
Ah, the George Michael defence...

Yes, not exactly "plausible deniability" is it  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Jake Worrell on September 27, 2011, 07:49:36 AM
What-ho, Jake!  :)

What-ho!  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 10, 2011, 10:17:06 PM
My new speakers are here! Plus: Kittens!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_bBFnTuw5w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_bBFnTuw5w)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 10, 2011, 10:21:02 PM
Shineback sneakers, you say
(http://www.gizmodiva.com/entry_image/0509/11/Metallic_Bapesta_sneakers.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on October 10, 2011, 10:24:03 PM
My new speakers are here! Plus: Kittens!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_bBFnTuw5w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_bBFnTuw5w)

I like kittens.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 10, 2011, 10:25:34 PM
Me too!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on October 10, 2011, 10:59:58 PM
I especially like the kittens that are accompanied by 'friends'.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Nellie on October 11, 2011, 08:54:38 AM
Kittens AND puppies.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 11, 2011, 08:56:29 AM
...I was restraining myself from making that very comment - shame on you, Nellie! ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 11, 2011, 09:15:21 AM
Surely we are missing the point...the speakers people...THE SPEAKERS!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on October 11, 2011, 10:46:07 AM
Shineback sneakers, you say
(http://www.gizmodiva.com/entry_image/0509/11/Metallic_Bapesta_sneakers.jpg)

I WANT some of THOSE  :o :o :o



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 11, 2011, 10:50:47 AM
Bert from da Hood


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on October 11, 2011, 10:57:46 AM
Shineback sneakers, you say
(http://www.gizmodiva.com/entry_image/0509/11/Metallic_Bapesta_sneakers.jpg)

I WANT some of THOSE  :o :o :o

The label worryingly indicates that they could be called 'Rape'.  :o


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 11, 2011, 11:10:25 AM
Not sure they intended that message to come across.  :o


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 17, 2011, 10:12:02 AM
A weekend full of ups and downs concerning the Crows Nest and Shineback.

Saturday saw me running into technical difficulties as at first I thought the valve had gone in my main vocal mic. This is the kind of news that usually sees me undertaking considerable practical research into the limits of profanity but happily it turned out not to be the case (I think I'll still need to purchase a spare EC83a tube anyway). It took 3-4 hours to track down the problem down and I practically had to unplug everything but thanks to some judicious re-wiring, the problem was solved and normality restored.

After that, things went swimmingly. They say that a person's reach should always be beyond their grasp otherwise what would be the point of doing anything new? Every now and again that attitude reaps noticeable results and Saturday evening/Sunday day saw me treading upon entirely new ground creatively which was dead exciting. Stuff like this is what I got into the music game for and hopefully means that Shineback (plus the new Tinyfish EP) will be all the better for it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: James_H on October 17, 2011, 10:16:21 AM
Sounds like a most productive weekend, sir!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 17, 2011, 10:24:36 AM
Stuff like this is what I got into the music game for and hopefully means that Shineback (plus the new Tinyfish EP) will be all the better for it.
...so what you're trying to tell me is that it's not finished yet? Get on with it!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 17, 2011, 10:29:21 AM
Sounds like a most productive weekend, sir!
It was indeed. As Shineback is a studio project, having the weight of not immediately having to play this stuff live lifted from your shoulders means that you can really test the creative limits of both the studio and your imagination.

I've filmed most of the weekend's endevours for future broadcast. Be afraid.

@ Wilf - Yes boss.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on October 17, 2011, 11:21:37 AM
Stuff like this is what I got into the music game for and hopefully means that Shineback (plus the new Tinyfish EP) will be all the better for it.
...so what you're trying to tell me is that it's not finished yet? Get on with it!

hahaha  - a tough task master :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on October 17, 2011, 11:27:11 AM
Would be worth creating another sub-forum for these side projects.  Obviously there are going to be many more of them in future...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on October 17, 2011, 11:49:56 AM
As Shineback is a studio project, having the weight of not immediately having to play this stuff live lifted from your shoulders means that you can really test the creative limits of both the studio and your imagination.

Ah, just like Sgt. Pepper's, then. No pressure there...  ;)

It's the whole technology breaking or going wrong element that scares me the most about this music lark. Everything, and I mean everything, is so expensive in this game that if or when it breaks, it can seriously put you right up the creek. That's why I haven't tried to adjust my Fender Strat to try and get the most out of it - I know that if I cack it up, I'm about £400 away from a replacement. It still narks me somewhat that I spent over £200 on Pro Tools only to wind up with a temperamental bit of software that rarely works and a pricey soundcard. I won't start on the iPod...  :(


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on October 17, 2011, 12:34:45 PM
Oh don't get me started on expensive bits of kit that you can't get the best out of.

I really need to bite the bullet and go back to 32 Bit Windows 7 - it's just such a pain. I don't particularly want to run dual systems and by the look of it ATI are light years away from a stable 64 bit Radeon driver and Vegas won't use the power of the video card under 64 bit.

I might try and tackle it at the weekend, so long as I can work out what I need to back up (iTunes folder for a start)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on October 17, 2011, 02:55:01 PM
oh my gosh. I have a (so far) fabulously stable ATI card on Win7 64. Sometimes certain video cards hate certain motherboards... and sometimes just reseating the card and air dusting the insides can sort you out...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: hoboslobo on October 17, 2011, 03:07:29 PM
My ATI card works fine under both Windows 64 and Linux 64.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 17, 2011, 03:13:55 PM
Mine too. In fact, I dumped an nVidia one recently because it was buggy with the Asus motherboard.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on October 17, 2011, 04:10:35 PM
I'll perhhaps try that first, but it doesn't tackle the Vegas problem.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 17, 2011, 04:18:48 PM
I presume you can isolate that problem, though, because what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on October 17, 2011, 09:27:14 PM
though it's always a gamble.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on October 17, 2011, 09:31:18 PM
I see that when the chips are down, all the obvious jokes are played.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 18, 2011, 04:01:33 PM
The great Back-up Beast has reared it's ugly head recently. As with all of the projects since TBRS (and a few before) created at The Crows Nest, the notion of an off-site backup of the sizable data created during recording is a must and not to do so is inviting potential disaster.

Disaster I say.

Since the great debacle of the data loss (and subsequent frenzied retrieval of TBRS) just weeks before the main mixing sessions, I've made a point of backing up any new project’s data every few weeks but even that hasn't prevented a few sleepless nights mulling over the notion of semi biblical issues like fire, flood and theft occurring. As a result, I’ve had to resort to that most desperate of measures; the off-site backup. A hard drive has been purchased (through Robert), the data copied across and very quickly removed from the studios to be quietly secreted somewhere else on the planet.

I'll admit that I have partners in crime when it comes to such an endeavour. Both Robert and Wilf are involved in my evil scheming and together we shall rule the world.

The world I say.

This is an incredibly unsexy use of technology and it takes considerable force of will for me to indulge in such practices as let’s face it, £45 can go a long way of an evening with your favourite goat and a bottle Cuervo Gold. It has to be the grown up in yours truly that takes me in the opposite direction which is surprising as I never thought I had any grown up inside.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on October 18, 2011, 04:32:06 PM
It's amazing how often people don't take back ups.  Two of my colleagues' laptops' hard disk have gone belly up recently - and guess what...  Yes, no backup. 


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 18, 2011, 05:16:26 PM
They thought I was odd when I started my current job, asking questions about how backups were done. "Oh, we do them a couple of times a week, most weeks. Jo takes the tapes home with her, I think she only lost a couple. Oh yes, we replace the tapes - we did that a couple of years ago. They last a long time, though, only half a dozen have snapped in the last couple of months. David, are you all right? You're turning a very strange colour".

...and this isn't too much of an exaggeration.

Guess what, there'll be proper group-wide backup solution very, very soon...

But the Shineback backups will be handy, because I can release the album without any of that troublesome nonsense of paying the artist.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on October 18, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Artist? Some bedroom DJ comes to you with a few bleeps and whistles - suddenly e's an artist?  :P :-*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 18, 2011, 06:08:31 PM
Well, you know, you have to work at their level...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: MikeEvs on October 19, 2011, 12:19:22 AM
Got back from photographing Joe Bonamassa tonight and the first thing I did was backup the photos to my pc and and an external drive


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on October 19, 2011, 07:42:28 AM
But the Shineback backups will be handy, because I can release the album without any of that troublesome nonsense of paying the artist.

Considering what we know of the music industry, you should not joke about such things. If it had been anyone else (well apart from James ofc) who'd said that, I would be hunting them down with a pitchfork and some hot coals.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 19, 2011, 11:23:24 AM
Yes, but it was me, and you know how brutal my humour can be :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 19, 2011, 12:05:19 PM
Well, you know, you have to work at their level...
*dribbles*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on October 19, 2011, 12:23:13 PM
Well, you know, you have to work at their level...
*dribbles*
"PASS! Godfrey! PASS!!" <red-faced, irate PE teacher on the touchline hurls his clipboard to the ground in pure rage>


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on October 19, 2011, 12:27:28 PM
The whole schoolroom sniggered
And silently thanked God it wasn't them..


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 10, 2011, 04:49:44 PM
Things might have gone quiet on the posting front for Shineback recently but that just means there is a lot of frantic legwork going underneath the prog duck.

These past few weeks have seen me working hard upon the album’s title track; Rise Up Forgotten, Returned Destroyed. Being an 11 minute plus track, there are lots of stuff to do, not least because a good proportion of the techniques being employed to create the noises are pretty much virgin ground for me. I mean, do you actually realise just how hard it is to get a dog to bark with a Brummie accent?

There are also four guest artists contributing to this particular performance which means this is as close to a band rendition as the album is likely to get. Assembling any musicians in one place to perform is cat herding at the best of times but when those musicians aren’t actually part of a working band, the task becomes twice as tricky. Happily, dates have been arranged, cars have been fuelled, takeaway menus perused and spare sofas have been commandeered. All in the name of Prog.

After that, most of the performances will have been recorded and the task of mixing the bloody thing will begin early in the new year.

Robert has worked like mad to help realise some of the story themes I’ve outlined for him into some of the best lyrics I’ve seen him write yet. In addition to that, he’s also done an incredible job fitting his words seamlessly in and around my existing lyrics. Even I have trouble recognising where my stuff ends and his begins.

I’ve also been true to my word that at no point have I picked up a guitar for this project. This has been a deliberate policy on my part. All the guitar work you’ll hear will have been played by someone else which I think has given Shineback a very different sound to that of Tinyfish.

One question that has been asked of me me recently was; why aren’t you doing this work for Tinyfish? The short answer is that I am.

Over and above the fact that I’m very keen to move the creative ball forward i.e. not to write The Big Red Spark (Part 2), after a year promoting TBRS, Shineback is allowing me to develop my studio chops again (which I lost a lot of by just playing live) in preparation for our return to the studio for our EP in 2012.

The Tinyfish EP will also be the first record since the debut album which will be recorded and mixed entirely ‘in house’ at The Crow’s Nest. This is a test to see if we can do it and if it works, our production costs could be significantly reduced thus allowing more potential cash to flow into the coffers for the next full length record. More cash, more ale, Indian food and floozies.

You see? I have this all worked out in a professional and mature way. Honest.

Giving it a listen back last night, I realised The Shineback album will allow everyone to hear how certain songs sound BEFORE the rest of the guys in the band get their angelic little hands on them. You’re pretty much getting 100% Godfrey arse with added gloss.

I’m sorry, that really is a disturbing mental image isn’t it?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 10, 2011, 04:53:50 PM
Just. Finish. The. Record.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 10, 2011, 04:58:26 PM
You really are beginning to sounds like a proper record exec.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 10, 2011, 05:05:54 PM
Practice makes perfect :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: hoboslobo on November 10, 2011, 06:43:09 PM
Giving it a listen back last night, I realised The Shineback album will allow everyone to hear how certain songs sound BEFORE the rest of the guys in the band get their angelic little hands on them. You’re pretty much getting 100% Godfrey arse with added gloss.

I am NOT taking that photo.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on November 10, 2011, 07:15:46 PM
Giving it a listen back last night, I realised The Shineback album will allow everyone to hear how certain songs sound BEFORE the rest of the guys in the band get their angelic little hands on them. You’re pretty much getting 100% Godfrey arse with added gloss.

I am NOT taking that photo.

hahahahahaha


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 10, 2011, 11:23:44 PM
Giving it a listen back last night, I realised The Shineback album will allow everyone to hear how certain songs sound BEFORE the rest of the guys in the band get their angelic little hands on them. You’re pretty much getting 100% Godfrey arse with added gloss.

I am NOT taking that photo.
You know you want to you dirty slut.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on November 10, 2011, 11:56:52 PM
(http://cdn1.iofferphoto.com/img2/item/132/520/773/yepW.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 11, 2011, 12:48:57 AM
Yaaaarrrrgh!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 11, 2011, 12:50:32 AM
Being an 11 minute plus track, there are lots of stuff to do...

After working with Manning, eleven minutes is nothing.  :P


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 11, 2011, 10:34:27 AM
Say that afterwards.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 11, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
Mouse has no conception of the horrors that await him. The things he will be required to do will haunt him forever.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on November 11, 2011, 11:25:32 AM
(http://www.flaming-water.com/RuneScapeBotsandMacros/RuneScape/Images/GhostMouse.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 11, 2011, 11:40:30 AM
Dammit, you downloaded our bespoke recording software off the Internet!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 11, 2011, 11:50:09 AM
There go the profits  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 11, 2011, 11:53:39 AM
Which profits are those, then? ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 11, 2011, 12:11:02 PM
The meagre ones we were going to be able to squeeze from the project through creative accounting.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 11, 2011, 12:21:11 PM
I've thought up some slightly more creative ways of getting money out of Shineback, about which I will be having an 'artistic discussion' with the artist and our digital media consultant. Keep an eye on the headlines in the Sunday Mirror.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 11, 2011, 01:34:08 PM
Are you going to test Piers Morgan in the face with a copy? I'm sure people will be lining up to buy copies after that.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 11, 2011, 02:37:48 PM
Wilf is the new Colonel Parker.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on November 11, 2011, 02:39:30 PM
has he been promoted?

(http://wiseoldgoat.com/images/thunderbirds/Parker.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on November 11, 2011, 03:06:50 PM
Wilf is the new Colonel Parker.

(http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/images/sanders_h.jpg)

:)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 11, 2011, 04:58:19 PM
(http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/images/sanders_h.jpg)

:)
Shineback - it's finger-licking' good!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 11, 2011, 10:25:55 PM
Looks like Rolf Harris and therefore Matt Stevens.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 11, 2011, 10:29:32 PM
Are you going to test Piers Morgan in the face with a copy?

Twat, not test!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on November 11, 2011, 10:41:53 PM
Looks like Rolf Harris and therefore Matt Stevens.

 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 14, 2011, 01:48:27 PM
Nice to know where you stand with your fans Matt.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Dena on November 14, 2011, 06:18:51 PM
I'm confused. I thought it was Simon doing Shineback, but now it looks like it could be Colonel Sanders, Rolf Harris or Matt Stevens. Or all three.  :-\


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on November 14, 2011, 06:21:59 PM
I'm confused. I thought it was Simon doing Shineback, but now it looks like it could be Colonel Sanders, Rolf Harris or Matt Stevens. Or all three.  :-\

Guest musicians


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 14, 2011, 06:53:16 PM
I'm confused. I thought it was Simon doing Shineback, but now it looks like it could be Colonel Sanders, Rolf Harris or Matt Stevens. Or all three.  :-\

Guest musicians

Punching above his weight with those on board.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on November 14, 2011, 07:08:21 PM
I'm confused. I thought it was Simon doing Shineback, but now it looks like it could be Colonel Sanders, Rolf Harris or Matt Stevens. Or all three.  :-\

Guest musicians

Punching above his weight with those on board.

He's ahead of his field, and out of his tree.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 15, 2011, 11:00:55 AM
*dribbles*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 15, 2011, 11:23:17 AM
That's the best sample from the album so far.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on November 15, 2011, 12:23:00 PM
Output of that quality is what we have all come to expect from Simon.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 15, 2011, 12:42:32 PM
A fair point well made.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 15, 2011, 09:48:45 PM
Put some reverb on that, it'll sound great.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 15, 2011, 09:53:33 PM
I really hope that's not the limit of your l33t production skillz, Tim...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 16, 2011, 10:40:30 AM
It's certainly the limit of mine.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 16, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
Oh, bugger.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 16, 2011, 11:31:09 AM
And reality finally hits home.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 16, 2011, 12:07:38 PM
As my mate Vince from the band Beige once said 'Tuning your guitar properly is for posers'.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 16, 2011, 12:10:55 PM
It's a policy Twice Bitten followed throughout their career.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 21, 2011, 12:08:08 AM
While waiting for my main studio computer to update Pro Tools this weekend (and believe me, it was a long and unhappy process), I tinkered this together on my laptop. It's a cover of Kate Bush's 'And Dream Of Sheep' from The Hounds Of Love album. I hope you all like it.  :)

http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/and-dream-of-sheep (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/and-dream-of-sheep)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on November 21, 2011, 01:49:05 AM
excellent, good sir!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 21, 2011, 08:19:45 AM
Lovely stuff to start the morning off with. Nice work!  :)  You've set an example now. If that can be done in the weekend on a laptop...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 21, 2011, 08:20:16 AM
Finish the bloody album and stop making excuses about upgrading technology - we know you really do it all using an old cassette recorder.

(Love it! Has to be an improvement on what Ms. Bush is doing at the moment - maybe the Tinyfish Christmas single should be all of The Ninth Wave :))


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 21, 2011, 08:20:58 AM
Lovely stuff to start the morning off with. Nice work!  :)  You've set an example now. If that can be done in the weekend on a laptop...
Bloody hell, it's before midday and Mouse is posting!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 21, 2011, 08:22:23 AM
Miracles can happen, apparently.  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on November 21, 2011, 10:20:12 AM
Finish the bloody album and stop making excuses about upgrading technology - we know you really do it all using an old cassette recorder.

(Love it! Has to be an improvement on what Ms. Bush is doing at the moment - maybe the Tinyfish Christmas single should be all of The Ninth Wave :))

Yeah, do Under Ice now  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 21, 2011, 11:14:53 AM
I think Wilf would start to growl if I diverted any more of my time away from Shineback.  :)

That said, there are loads and loads of stuff in the Godfrey vaults (both covers and originals) which I might gradually release as additional material through the Shineback site closer to the time of the album release.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 21, 2011, 11:30:17 AM
If it wasn't for the hassle we'd have getting clearance I'd suggest doing a bonus CD of such material with the first 500 Shineback albums.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 21, 2011, 11:39:52 AM
Maybe for the second album  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 21, 2011, 11:46:58 AM
...maybe it IS the second album ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 21, 2011, 12:23:04 PM
The utter confidence that there will be a first album is pleasing to note.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 21, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
Maybe for the second album  ;)

You mean the second pressing of the first album as well.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 21, 2011, 12:37:28 PM
The utter confidence that there will be a first album is pleasing to note.
There can be no doubt about this. Resistance is futile.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 21, 2011, 12:46:53 PM
(http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/locutus.jpg)

He is Wilf of Borg. You. Are. Borg.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 21, 2011, 03:20:06 PM
What is it about the Borg and turtle necks?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 21, 2011, 03:21:53 PM
They've been watching too many Seventies dramas on ITV.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 27, 2011, 01:41:25 AM
Another Memory House video blog giving the very latest updates, travel and weather from the world of Shineback. Is Simon Godfrey, all mouth and no trousers? Join me now in the Shinyverse to find out.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG_nKkxRPoA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG_nKkxRPoA)



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on November 27, 2011, 01:56:12 AM
holy hell, Simon, that is wonderful!!!  seriously, great, great, great music.

I really am looking forward to this album.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 27, 2011, 08:38:16 AM
I really am looking forward to this album.
So am I - I just wish he'd bloody get on with it ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 27, 2011, 11:00:32 AM
Get on with it !


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 27, 2011, 12:32:04 PM
I refer the honourable gentlemen to the video. ;D One sometimes wonders how much proof of 'getting on with it' one needs.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 27, 2011, 12:40:05 PM
All I see there is some pratting around with a toy parrot and a lot of clapping.

;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 27, 2011, 02:31:22 PM
Am I supposed to watch the video then ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 27, 2011, 02:35:59 PM
No need - you've got my summary.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 27, 2011, 05:52:30 PM
All I see there is some pratting around with a toy parrot and a lot of clapping.
;D
A lot of grown men pay good money for that kind of stuff up west.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 27, 2011, 06:04:55 PM
You'd have to ask James about that ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 27, 2011, 06:15:13 PM
I don't have a gown, it's a poncho.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 27, 2011, 06:21:58 PM
The gown has grown.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on November 27, 2011, 06:32:37 PM
I don't have a gown, it's a poncho.

Well, you SAY it's a poncho. Looks more like a horse blanket though.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: MikeEvs on November 27, 2011, 06:36:35 PM
Your on my TV  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/mphgt/SimonTV.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on November 27, 2011, 08:20:25 PM
All I see there is some pratting around with a toy parrot and a lot of clapping.

;D

So it's definitely prog then...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on November 27, 2011, 09:19:14 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 27, 2011, 09:41:24 PM
I don't have a gown, it's a poncho.

Well, you SAY it's a poncho. Looks more like a horse blanket though.

Datz coz eet iz awfentick innit


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on November 27, 2011, 10:34:25 PM
SpamBot's Authentic Horse Blanket. Has a certain ring to it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on November 27, 2011, 10:38:04 PM
SpamBot's Authentic Horse Blanket. Has a certain ring to it.
With a name like that, you KNOW it's well dodgy!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 27, 2011, 10:52:00 PM
Maybe, but it's all mine.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 28, 2011, 07:31:55 AM
That sounds like a hostile takeover bid to me ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 28, 2011, 08:49:38 AM
No hostility was needed to takeover the poncho.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on November 28, 2011, 09:52:22 AM
Correct horse battery staple!

http://xkcd.com/936/ (http://xkcd.com/936/)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 28, 2011, 11:25:45 AM
Your on my TV  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/mphgt/SimonTV.jpg)
Eeek!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on November 28, 2011, 11:58:28 AM
No hostility was needed to takeover the poncho.

What if the horse wants it back?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 28, 2011, 01:10:03 PM
What horse ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on November 28, 2011, 01:52:25 PM
What horse ?
The authentic one.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 28, 2011, 02:34:21 PM
What certificate of authenticity ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on November 28, 2011, 05:42:30 PM
Is the the certificate of authenticity authentic?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on November 28, 2011, 05:58:59 PM
Presumably it would be, as long as it had been authenticated by someone authentic.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on November 28, 2011, 06:02:38 PM
Presumably it would be, as long as it had been authenticated by someone authentic.

Or a horse.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 28, 2011, 10:19:56 PM
That section's going to be great fun to mix, I think. Can't wait to hear the rest.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 29, 2011, 09:27:15 AM
I think so too Mouse. Apart from a little processing at the start and some very basic panning, that is really just naked voices, some strings and a bit of clapping. 


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 29, 2011, 01:58:59 PM
Happy clapping.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 29, 2011, 02:59:05 PM
Nightmare clapping in fact. One bar of 4/4, 7/8, 4/4, 9/8.  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on November 29, 2011, 03:03:53 PM
Who the hell do you think you are, Rush?!

Actually, one of my favourite games to play is Count The Time Signatures while listening to Earthshine by Rush. (Well, I say "favourite"...) It's a mark of musical brilliance, I think, to be able to fit different time sigs in alongside each other and have it not be immediately noticable or distracting for the listener. Subdivisions is a good example of that, too.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 29, 2011, 03:31:43 PM
Nightmare clapping in fact. One bar of 4/4, 7/8, 4/4, 9/8.  ::)
Prog!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on November 29, 2011, 03:33:26 PM
Surely Steve Reich?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 30, 2011, 10:40:21 AM
A big influence in fact sir.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on November 30, 2011, 07:23:26 PM
Just listened to that Acapella section - bloody hell thats brilliant - love it


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on November 30, 2011, 10:12:51 PM
Cheers guvnor. I had to pull my finger out a bit considering you consented to add your talents to the proceedings.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 30, 2011, 10:47:57 PM
No pressure from the label or anything, mind ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on November 30, 2011, 11:48:37 PM
What label ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 10, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
A brief update from DeeExpus HQ, where Mr. Rogers is currently engaged in recording the drums part for the title track, under the supervision of Messrs. Ditchfield and Godfrey.

There's nothing like watching professionals work. And this is, indeed, nothing like watching  professionals work.

:)

But seriously...it's sounding awesome. As we all know Hen is a monster player, and he's adding some amazing punch to what is already an incredibly powerful piece.

Getting very excited about the Shineback release...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on December 10, 2011, 03:43:48 PM
He better be doing a good job, or else I'll edit him out of the album.  ;)

Looking forward to hearing it!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on December 10, 2011, 03:54:07 PM
Hen is playing a monster ?!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 10, 2011, 03:59:03 PM
Quote of the day from Hen:

"It's like a hillbilly writing a rock song"


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on December 10, 2011, 04:02:06 PM
That's another potential market then...rednecks


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 10, 2011, 04:11:54 PM
We'll sell to anyone.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on December 11, 2011, 04:01:00 AM
Yee-ha.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 11, 2011, 12:11:03 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/52848b90-9dc1-1919.jpg)

Is this really why I drove three hundred miles?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 11, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
That's a long way to go to see something like that...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on December 11, 2011, 03:33:38 PM
And you went via Pennsylvania so he could buy a hoodie ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on December 11, 2011, 03:44:42 PM
BEM's expenses well spent, I see.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 11, 2011, 04:02:45 PM
I think this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cD9cBEaNBc) is the direction that BEM should consider for the future.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on December 11, 2011, 04:12:51 PM
I'm not going to look.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on December 11, 2011, 06:16:56 PM
A brief update from DeeExpus HQ, where Mr. Rogers is currently engaged in recording the drums part for the title track, under the supervision of Messrs. Ditchfield and Godfrey.

There's nothing like watching professionals work. And this is, indeed, nothing like watching  professionals work.

:)

But seriously...it's sounding awesome. As we all know Hen is a monster player, and he's adding some amazing punch to what is already an incredibly powerful piece.

Getting very excited about the Shineback release...

So am I - let us know when you want to do the marketing curry, sorry i mean meeting :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 11, 2011, 08:53:24 PM
BEM's expenses well spent, I see.
It was a productive weekend - I got to see my mother, Simon got to watch some Northerners drink a lot...yes, not bad ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 11, 2011, 08:54:47 PM
So am I - let us know when you want to do the marketing curry, sorry i mean meeting :)
Never be afraid to use the 'c' word in a BEM context :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 12, 2011, 11:37:36 AM
What a brilliant weekend. Lots of work completed and oodles of fun working with Andy Ditchfield and Hen Rogers. It was a delight working with two such heavy drinker….er sorry I mean incredibly talented musicians.

Hen had provided us with a large amount of excellent material and his contribution will make a huge difference to the feel and weight of the playing. I for one was chuffed to bits.

On the Saturday evening, whilst David attended to business in Sunderland, Andy, Hen, Tony Wright (DeeExpus’ lead singer), previous DX keyboardist Marc Jolliffe and I went out on the razz in Durham (a big university town up in the north of England for those of you not in the know) and I was given an up close and personal demonstration of professional northern drinking which was both impressive and highly instructive. I was among experts.

Being a non drinker but willing to keep in with the spirit of the evening, I gamely downed three vodkas and a perry which gave me wobbly legs and a hurty head. The following morning Ditch cooked us all a fantastic breakfast and it was with a heavy heart that David and I had to return to Sothernpooftaland on the Sunady afternoon.

A huge thank you goes out to Andy and Hen for their contribution to the Shineback album. There will be a pipe and slippers in the post for them both as thanks.  Kudos also must be paid to The Amazing Wilf for driving me up to sunny Crook and herding all the cats into the same room to produce the music.

A Memory House video blog will be released in time for Christmas detail all the sordid events.  


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on December 12, 2011, 11:58:51 AM
Where's the best place to drink in Middlesborough ?

Durham.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on December 12, 2011, 12:52:01 PM
Where's the best place to drink in Middlesborough ?

The river.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on December 12, 2011, 01:05:17 PM
If drinking out of the river is the best place to drink, I can only assume that the local breweries are turning out some really bad stuff.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 15, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
Had a fab time last night in the pub with Robert. We spent a lot of time working upon the lyrics and the storyline for the Shineback album and even took some time out to taunt a drunk hooray Henry who had decided he wanted to use the lyrics sheets to write on.

He was a tit.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 15, 2011, 01:14:50 PM
took some time out to taunt a drunk hooray Henry who had decided he wanted to use the lyrics sheets to write on.

He was a tit.
What's he going to be playing on the album? And did you get him to sign the standard BEM non-disclosure agreement ("do anything you don't like and we'll cut your ears off")?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 15, 2011, 01:18:36 PM
Robert and I had some fun. In situations like that, I usually start lying like a bastard. I was just getting into a thing about Robert and I being urban poets when he was bustled off by some apologetic friends.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on December 15, 2011, 01:26:40 PM
"We're urban poets.  We're gonna poet your arze, innit."


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 15, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
Wow! Were you there?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on December 15, 2011, 05:21:39 PM
What a brilliant weekend.

.. and I went out on the razz in Durham
I expect it has changed quite a lot since my day but where did you go in Durham?

After the last of my finals I did drink in every single pub in the centre of the city.

On the occasion of my 21st birthday a group of us did the Saturday night college bar crawl thing. The decision was made to drink cognac which meant that we a) were often served much larger measures than we asked for b) got drunk rather quickly c) got back to our college in time to still order toasties (very important) and d) were still a bit drunk but not really hung over the next morning.
The last was important because overnight it snowed and so after breakfast we made snowmen.

Great fun.

Rick


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 15, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
We started in what looked like the main drag, took a right up a cobbled hill to a pub I think was called The Angel, the last thing I remember was going into a Rock bar called The Steam Packet or Steam Engine (something like that). It was full of rock chicks and metal heads. We felt right at home.

Any help?  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 15, 2011, 11:38:16 PM
We started in drag, took a Packet of rock chicks right up a cobbled hill to an Angel, the last thing I remember was going  metal.
 

Sounds like a great evening out!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 16, 2011, 09:46:57 AM
Bloody hell. Were you there?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on December 16, 2011, 10:01:55 AM
We started in what looked like the main drag, took a right up a cobbled hill to a pub I think was called The Angel, the last thing I remember was going into a Rock bar called The Steam Packet or Steam Engine (something like that). It was full of rock chicks and metal heads. We felt right at home.

Any help?  :)
I remember the Angel. I can't remember what the Head of Steam used to be. We did drink in the pubs in the centre but not as often as the college bars. Monday nights in Trevs (Trevelyan College) had live bands and free entry - that was ace.

Rick


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 18, 2011, 05:01:08 PM
Is This The Dream?

First Shineback song complete and ready for mixing.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on December 18, 2011, 05:02:17 PM
Congratulations.
er.. How many more to go?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on December 18, 2011, 05:02:40 PM
Quick, somebody find the ears !


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 18, 2011, 05:05:23 PM
Two down, ten to go.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on December 18, 2011, 05:14:26 PM
Yay!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on December 18, 2011, 08:04:58 PM
yay2


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on December 18, 2011, 08:30:03 PM
Hurrah! Can't wait to get acclimatised to this new music-bound adventure.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on December 18, 2011, 08:51:06 PM
Actually, I can't wait to apply the advice Jem gave to me about working with Simon: "Drink heavily!"  :D ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 18, 2011, 08:59:22 PM
That's not allowed. You're going to need to keep your wits about you. And you'll do as you're told.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on December 18, 2011, 09:26:31 PM
Er - drinking heavily is what he was told to do.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on December 18, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
where do I sign up?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 30, 2011, 10:55:57 AM
Even though a cold and the mother of all mouth ulcers has proved a bugger for singing, I managed to get a bit of work done on Christmas day and my Birthday. Sadly I wasn't able to complete the vox for the second track Bedlam Days as it required a bit of a lyrical re-write at my request from Rob (which he is currently working on).

If all goes well, I should be tackling the lead vox for the album's only ballad Faultlines tomorrow and New Year's Day. Lots of moaning and wailing then.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 30, 2011, 11:10:14 AM
Sounds like you urgently need more vitamin C, Simon.



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 30, 2011, 11:22:14 AM
It would seem that way. I tend to neck a lot of apple juice right now as I'm off the Dr Pepper for a bit.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on December 30, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
off the Dr Pepper

THERE'S your problem...  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 30, 2011, 11:44:53 AM
Apple juice is low in vitamin C. You need orange juice!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 30, 2011, 12:46:02 PM
Orange juice seems to cause me no end of heartburn sadly. I tend to get most of my vitamins and minerals from roadkill.

Oh and Thea. Wash your mouth out with soap and water for dissing the Doctor. Apart from hunting young Conservatives from horseback with hounds, it is my only vice.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on December 30, 2011, 12:53:01 PM
it is my only vice.

Oh come on dear chap - surely there aren't enough pixels in the world to list your vices.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on December 30, 2011, 01:04:45 PM
Orange juice seems to cause me no end of heartburn sadly. I tend to get most of my vitamins and minerals from roadkill.

Oh and Thea. Wash your mouth out with soap and water for dissing the Doctor. Apart from hunting young Conservatives from horseback with hounds, it is my only vice.

I was dissing the giving up of the fizzy caffeine!  ::) I'm always pro-fizzy...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on December 30, 2011, 01:40:01 PM
In that case I withdraw my previous remarks entirely (save the hunting of young Conservatives bit. Townies will never understand the notion of the traditions of the countryside).


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 30, 2011, 01:59:31 PM
(If you didn't hunt them, they'd breed)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on December 30, 2011, 02:15:24 PM
(looks out of the window)
...It's too late.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on December 31, 2011, 08:27:56 PM
"Born free, as free as the wind blows..."


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 31, 2011, 11:56:23 PM
Been at the baked beans again, Mouse?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on January 02, 2012, 10:49:43 AM
When I was a kid I thought that said "as free as a window"


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on January 18, 2012, 05:17:40 PM
In light of discussions elsewhere, I just thought I'd bring this to the top of the pile again instead of just holding my breath.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 18, 2012, 05:18:49 PM
Oh, you just had to, didn't you?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 18, 2012, 05:23:11 PM
What Shineback ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 18, 2012, 05:24:21 PM
It's some guy who wants to sign with us, James.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on January 18, 2012, 05:26:43 PM
Don't let him out to play until he's got something to show for his time.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 18, 2012, 05:27:17 PM
No play til Hammersmith.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on January 18, 2012, 05:27:57 PM
I had to go to the third page to find this thread, it was almost in the land that time forgot.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 18, 2012, 05:32:14 PM
Yeah.  We were hoping...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on January 18, 2012, 07:00:17 PM
I listened to the sampler of this on Soundcloud last night. I still have no idea what to expect.  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on January 18, 2012, 07:05:44 PM
I listened to the sampler of this on Soundcloud last night. I still have no idea what to expect.  :D

you've seen the vocal session youtube, of course.  going to be epic.

no pressure, Simon.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 18, 2012, 07:10:50 PM
Expect nothing.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on January 18, 2012, 07:14:31 PM
And you will not be disappointed.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 18, 2012, 07:21:57 PM
Shineback will release something this year, mark my words. Even if James and I have to finish it ourselves...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 18, 2012, 07:33:46 PM
More cowbell and add some bassoon !


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 18, 2012, 07:36:39 PM
We don't know any bassoon players, though.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 18, 2012, 07:54:25 PM
She lurks on here btw


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 18, 2012, 08:33:10 PM
I had a feeling she may. Debbie, create an ID and join in the 'fun'!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 18, 2012, 08:36:17 PM
Yeah, if you're going to be a Prog housewife you might as well do it properly !


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 19, 2012, 11:52:05 AM
I will be returning to the Shineback stuff this weekend even if my voice is not up to continuing with the vocals. Right now, I fall into a coughing fit every time I try to carry a tune but that doesn't stop me working on the music.

Four songs out of the twelve tracks now have completed vocals but I might add a thirteenth tune as there is currently both a musical and slight lyrical narrative element missing right before the title track. It won't be a long song but not having it there is bugging the hell out of me right now.

This doesn't include the additional tracks that I might work up at a later date.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on January 19, 2012, 03:49:36 PM
If you need any help, etc. etc.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 19, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Cheers mate. Right now, Paul is attending the vocal sessions 'cos after years and years of sharing the same stage and studios, he knows exactly what I can and can't do plus he's very good at spotting the little rubbish habbits that creep in as a session progresses.

Once my voice is back in shape, you'd be more than welcome to pop down.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 19, 2012, 04:50:12 PM
If you need any help, etc. etc.
Don't worry. The call will come, and you will answer.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 19, 2012, 04:51:11 PM
If you have your ears.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 19, 2012, 04:52:21 PM
If he hasn't, ears will be provided!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 19, 2012, 04:56:52 PM
I've got one ear.

How does he smell ?

£5 an hour.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on January 19, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
if there's chips, I'll be there.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 19, 2012, 05:02:57 PM
rog wants some megapussi
(http://www.jogt.de/mikkeli/megapussi.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on January 19, 2012, 05:06:49 PM
(http://annarboranimalhospital.com/animalhospital/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Obese-cat.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on January 20, 2012, 12:43:31 AM
heh

HEH


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on January 20, 2012, 07:04:34 AM
Caption: "Mum, have you moved my pyjama case again? I had a hell of a job getting them in there this morning, couldn't find the zip..."


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 20, 2012, 10:15:29 AM
Hehe


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 25, 2012, 03:20:42 PM
Paul and I are back in the studio recording vocals again tonight. This is going to be an interesting one as my singing voice is still way off it's best form. As a result, I've chosen one of the album's heavier and more progressive songs called Xo Va Yu to try my hand at.  :)

Truth be told, the song is largely instrumental but it will feature Paul Worwood in his vocal recording debut as Dora's  evil and abusive father. I thought everyone on the album should play to their strengths.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on January 25, 2012, 03:23:40 PM
Paul has tried to start fights with me in the past. What a suitable role for him.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 25, 2012, 03:26:10 PM
This is going to be an interesting one as my singing voice is still way off it's best form.

I thought everyone on the album should play to their strengths.  ;)
::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 25, 2012, 03:31:24 PM
I will 'evillify' Paul with studio trickery.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on January 25, 2012, 03:37:35 PM
Be gentle with him! You've got to be nice to bass players.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 25, 2012, 04:00:00 PM
Well if truth be told. He won't need much work on his voice. Paul is the most evil bass player in Prog.

..yes, let's start that rumour here.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on January 25, 2012, 04:06:56 PM
I've always noticed that Paul is not allowed a microphone on stage.  I assumed that was because he eats them or something.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 25, 2012, 04:08:59 PM
There is that. Plus, we usually remove his cape moments before he goes on stage so that he doesn't scare the younger members of the audience.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 25, 2012, 04:15:42 PM
so that he doesn't scare the younger members of the audience.
Those pre-pensioners are a troublesome bunch.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 25, 2012, 04:51:10 PM
We only keep him in the band because he smells nice.

Nice smelling Evil Paul.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on January 25, 2012, 05:01:13 PM
...and little lambs eat ivy?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 25, 2012, 05:08:01 PM
Truth be told, the song is largely instrumental but it will feature Paul Worwood in his vocal recording debut
Oh? And you have the necessary company clearance for the expenditure?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on January 25, 2012, 10:29:24 PM
The three pints of gin required to get him sufficiently relaxed to perform?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 26, 2012, 10:02:39 AM
The session went well but it was bloody obvious that my voice needs some work to get it back up to full working strength. Both Paul and I noticed quickly that everytime I started to sing with and kind of weight or volume, I couldn't hold the note steady to save my life. Happily, the sequence we were working on was a very quiet one so it leant the song a rspectable air of fragility. Paul also came up with some great ideas for the vocal arrangement so cheers matey.

Paul was very good behind the mic. Just the right amount of evil and creepy.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on January 26, 2012, 12:03:37 PM
The session went well but it was bloody obvious that my voice needs some work to get it back up to full working strength. Both Paul and I noticed quickly that everytime I started to sing with and kind of weight or volume, I couldn't hold the note steady to save my life. Happily, the sequence we were working on was a very quiet one so it leant the song a rspectable air of fragility. Paul also came up with some great ideas for the vocal arrangement so cheers matey.

Paul was very good behind the mic. Just the right amount of evil and creepy.  ;D

I'm not saying anything  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on January 26, 2012, 01:19:39 PM
 ;D  Can't wait to hear it!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 26, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Masochist.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on January 26, 2012, 01:24:05 PM
The session went well but it was bloody obvious that my voice needs some work to get it back up to full working strength. Both Paul and I noticed quickly that everytime I started to sing with and kind of weight or volume, I couldn't hold the note steady to save my life. Happily, the sequence we were working on was a very quiet one so it leant the song a rspectable air of fragility. Paul also came up with some great ideas for the vocal arrangement so cheers matey.

Paul was very good behind the mic. Just the right amount of evil and creepy.  ;D

Demarcation! :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on January 26, 2012, 01:26:17 PM
Masochist.
You're forgetting he has naan bread for ears these days...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on January 26, 2012, 01:27:11 PM
nn bred

Sounds bit like in-bred  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 26, 2012, 01:29:43 PM
Masochist.
You're forgetting he has naan bread for ears these days...
As long as it's cheese naan.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on January 26, 2012, 01:37:04 PM
No cheese around. My naan ears are clean.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 26, 2012, 02:55:57 PM
I particularly enjoy the grading system Paul employs to subtly tell me how weill I've sung something.

Excellent = Liked it. That's a keeper.
Good = There was some bits in there we can use.
Rubbish = Do you fancy having another go at that one?

 :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on January 26, 2012, 03:03:29 PM
Are they in descending order of usage?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on January 26, 2012, 03:39:42 PM
Hard to tell in the main but they certainly were last night.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on February 20, 2012, 12:11:23 AM
Paul really does make a good evil b*stard.  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 20, 2012, 11:15:43 AM
Things are once again gathering pace with the Shineback project. Now the illness of January is well and truly out of my system, I've spent the last couple of weeks getting my voice back into shape. The week just gone proved to be enormously productive, with vocals recorded and completed for not one but three songs (Crush Culture, Fears Aren’t Toys and Xo Va Yu).

Paul as ever, was behind the computers supervising the vocals sessions as I warbled my way though a two day recording marathon which has left me feeling like I’d run a marathon (not as fit for singing as I’d previously thought then – wuss!) but the extra effort has put the recording on the album back on schedule, which in turn has cured my insomnia. Funny that.

The album as a whole is really beginning to come into focus now. The electronic and cinematic flavour of the material created will probably raise a few eyebrows in the wider prog world but my feeling is that if you are not taking chances, how can you in good conscience say you are making progressive music?  It seems to my addled brain that it’s just too easy nowadays to slap on a 7 string guitar, play in odd time and lay claim to the cutting edge of the genre. Prog metal is fantastic and there is a notable nod to the heavy stuff in Shineback but maybe, just maybe, there’s more in prog’s bag of tricks than simply drop tuned guitars and gothic hair braids.

We shall see.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 20, 2012, 11:52:48 AM
It's still not finished, is it...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on February 20, 2012, 11:53:21 AM
So when will we see you in the gothic hair braids?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 20, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
I braid my gentleman's rest home. Does that count?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on February 20, 2012, 03:12:21 PM
I do have to say that so far it's sounding fantastic. Frankly, I don't give a stuff whether it's prog or not - as you all know, I hate progressive rock - it's just really, really good music, and you're all in for a treat when it's released in 2028.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 20, 2012, 03:14:28 PM
Pre-orders are 2028.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on February 20, 2012, 03:17:50 PM
Oh, yeah, sorry - we didn't make a committment on release date, did we?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on February 20, 2012, 03:28:48 PM
I hope to have a listen this evening since I forgot to check my email yesterday.

And do the new Fishtank logo. And do the washing up.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 20, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
You can leave my washing up for a couple of days, if it helps.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on February 20, 2012, 03:51:29 PM
To paraphrase Mouse, "**** your washing up"


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on February 20, 2012, 03:56:18 PM
To paraphrase Mouse, "**** your washing up"
It's not as good as "Twat banjos"....


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 20, 2012, 04:06:40 PM
Awww, I want to change the name of the Shineback project to Twat Banjos now.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on February 20, 2012, 04:09:07 PM
Awww, I want to change the name of the Shineback project to Twat Banjos now.
You say that now - you didn't hear the bangers & mash joke...  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on February 20, 2012, 05:19:45 PM
I was drunk! I deny everything!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on February 20, 2012, 05:21:15 PM
The electronic and cinematic flavour of the material created will probably raise a few eyebrows in the wider prog world...

Good. The more boring b*stards who like to bash one out over Tales From Topographic Oceans we piss off, the better.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ursula on February 20, 2012, 09:55:41 PM
Awww, I want to change the name of the Shineback project to Twat Banjos now.

Surely as the daddy you get to decide what to call the baby? ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on February 20, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
If you liked "Twat banjos", you're going to LOVE this: http://deadspin.com/5886424/and-now-for-your-uk-weather-where-the-forecast-is-bucketloads-of-cunt


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on February 20, 2012, 10:48:37 PM
Awww, I want to change the name of the Shineback project to Twat Banjos now.

Surely as the daddy you get to decide what to call the baby? ;)

Not in New Zealand you wouldn't.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 20, 2012, 11:04:36 PM
Not in BEM you don't - we've got to try to market the twatting thing


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on February 21, 2012, 07:34:12 AM
The electronic and cinematic flavour of the material created will probably raise a few eyebrows in the wider prog world...

Good. The more boring b*stards who like to bash one out over Tales From Topographic Oceans we piss off, the better.  ;D

Oi - the first album of Tales, while not a cause for tumescence, is a fine piece of work. The second album, admittedly, is boredrline unlistenable to.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 21, 2012, 07:48:23 AM
Plus we'll sell a copy of Shineback to absolutely anyone.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 21, 2012, 09:28:53 AM
Can I have a copy?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on February 21, 2012, 09:32:35 AM
Plus we'll sell a copy of Shineback to absolutely anyone.
For how much?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 21, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Can I have a copy?
You can certainly buy a copy.  Might even be able to get you a signed copy.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 21, 2012, 09:38:55 AM
Plus we'll sell a copy of Shineback to absolutely anyone.
For how much?
Depends if you want the supershiney limited edition or not...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on February 21, 2012, 09:41:58 AM
Well it's extremely limited so far.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 21, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
That's why we can justify charging over a fiver for it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on February 21, 2012, 10:05:36 AM
Awww, I want to change the name of the Shineback project to Twat Banjos now.

Surely as the daddy you get to decide what to call the baby? ;)
His actual influence on this project is diminishing by the day.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on February 21, 2012, 10:06:04 AM
Can I have a copy?
If you're good.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on February 21, 2012, 12:17:35 PM
So you mean "good" as in behaviour or "good" as in talent?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 21, 2012, 12:25:26 PM
At this stage I think we'd settle for either.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 21, 2012, 12:36:11 PM
No pressure then.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on February 21, 2012, 12:42:25 PM
Well, pressure hasn't worked so far ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 21, 2012, 12:43:05 PM
I am the reborn spirit of Douglas Adams.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on February 21, 2012, 01:14:16 PM
will there be vinyl?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 21, 2012, 01:20:34 PM
There will have to be...cds will be obsolete by the time this comes out...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on February 21, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on February 21, 2012, 01:29:22 PM
I am the reborn spirit of Douglas Adams.  ;D

WHHOOOOOSSSHHH!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on February 21, 2012, 10:56:45 PM
Oh no, not again.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 22, 2012, 09:54:21 AM
Hmm what's that rushing towards me really fast. Really, really fast. It's so big and wide, it needs a big, wide sounding name like pro...prooo...prog, yes PROG!!

I wonder if it'll be friends with me?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on February 22, 2012, 10:00:25 AM
Keep it at arms length, it bites.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 22, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
Just because they're releasing a concept album.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on February 22, 2012, 11:22:53 AM
Can't you use the infinite improbability drive to get to the end of recording the album without all that tedious mucking about in hyperspace?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 22, 2012, 11:52:28 AM
I would if it were not for the fact that I have been caught up in the Shoe Event Horizon and so to save the economy of the planet, I am forced to make shoes instead.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 22, 2012, 11:57:54 AM
(http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/image004.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on February 22, 2012, 12:07:28 PM
I would if it were not for the fact that I have been caught up in the Shoe Event Horizon and so to save the economy of the planet, I am forced to make shoes instead.
What a load of cobblers!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 22, 2012, 12:10:24 PM
Ithangyew.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Nellie on February 22, 2012, 02:17:04 PM
(http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/image004.jpg)
I like those.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on February 22, 2012, 02:59:47 PM
(http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/image004.jpg)
I like those.
<blast from the past>
Leon had to 'shake the pen' for a long time to spill that much ink on the shoes. But his many hours of intense training meant he barely broke a sweat.
</blast from the past>

R


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 22, 2012, 03:03:37 PM
I remember that pen.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on February 22, 2012, 10:00:47 PM
I have a gold pen that you have to shake like that. Leon has operated it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 24, 2012, 03:14:47 PM
Interesting weekend coming up on planet Shineback. Over and above the vocal session with Paul on Sunday, I'm taking some time out on Saturday to 'buff up' one of the out-takes from the album proper called My Nepenthe. This track was one of three songs I'd hoped to include either on the Shineback website or as part of a bonus CD/DVD if the BEM budget will stretch to it.

The song was originally going to be included on the main part of the album but I dropped it an favour of another song called Faultlines as they were both piano driven numbers and occupied more or less the same space in the story. One had to go and but I'd still like it to see the light of day. I might re-jig the lyrics as a result though.

Here's a thing, as I'm going to change the lyrics, how about some suggestions for a good alternate title. If someone can come up with a good 'un (or at least one which piques my imangination), I'd be happy to stick it in and try to write some lyrics around it.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 24, 2012, 03:17:52 PM
54 pages now...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 24, 2012, 03:19:23 PM
Anyone apart from James?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 24, 2012, 03:23:10 PM
The Gold Shoes.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on February 24, 2012, 03:24:52 PM
Isn't that a Pendragon song?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on February 24, 2012, 03:28:32 PM
What does "My Nepenthe" thound like if you try not to thing it with a lithp?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 24, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
Isn't that a Pendragon song?
I thought we could keep the Kate Bush theme going and make a real run (up the hill) for Best Female.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on February 24, 2012, 03:32:46 PM
"Palindrome" - a place where Monty Python took off, forwards or backwards, it didn't matter.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on February 24, 2012, 03:35:53 PM
Here's a thing, as I'm going to change the lyrics, how about some suggestions for a good alternate title. If someone can come up with a good 'un (or at least one which piques my imangination), I'd be happy to stick it in and try to write some lyrics around it.  :)

What about "How to Forget"?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 24, 2012, 03:40:55 PM
Forget what?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on February 24, 2012, 04:07:08 PM
Write about the fishtank, its various memes and downright bonkers goings on. You could even mention pandas. Heh.

It would be 'our tune' (cue Simon Bates).

Just a thought.

Rick


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 24, 2012, 04:16:50 PM
Forget what Rick said - it would make us sound like a bunch of nutters.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on February 24, 2012, 04:22:29 PM
Forget what Rick said - it would make us sound like a bunch of nutters.
As opposed to....?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 24, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
Oh, yeah.

Carry on.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on February 24, 2012, 08:49:20 PM
bicycling.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on February 24, 2012, 09:00:21 PM
...my wayward son...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on February 24, 2012, 09:15:23 PM
...up the Khyber...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 24, 2012, 11:29:09 PM
Up yours.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 28, 2012, 11:02:18 AM
My nice SE Gemini Mic needs a new valve as it was giving a less than minty performance over the weekend. A new valve has been purchased which has thrilled me for two reasons:

1. The mic will be working again.
2. I like the fact that you can still buy valves in the 21st century.

For those of you of a more technical bent, the valve in question is this.

(http://cdn-images.recordinghacks.com/mic_extras/se/icis_tube.jpg)

With posts like this, it's not hard to imagine why I am such a huge sex god to women.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 28, 2012, 11:17:20 AM
I like The Big Red Writing.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Nellie on February 28, 2012, 01:03:57 PM
What was the song called "Buff Up"?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 28, 2012, 01:06:56 PM
If it wasn't I should be.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Nellie on February 28, 2012, 01:51:03 PM
If it wasn't I should be.
You should be called Buff Up?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 28, 2012, 02:04:15 PM
Or something using many of those letters should be shouted at him.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on February 28, 2012, 02:20:53 PM
Puff UB?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 28, 2012, 02:31:07 PM
Oh. Dear. Prog.  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on February 28, 2012, 07:59:17 PM
He can huff and he can puff, but I doubt UB could blow my house down...

Anyway, it's protected by God. Or something.  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on February 28, 2012, 08:00:03 PM
(http://cdn-images.recordinghacks.com/mic_extras/se/icis_tube.jpg)

Is it just me, or are valves extremely pretty things to look at? ...No, actually don't answer that. I can guess your replies.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on February 28, 2012, 09:19:29 PM
Is his precious.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on February 28, 2012, 09:20:47 PM
Whatever does it for you, Simon...  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on February 29, 2012, 10:44:55 AM
At my age if anything can do it for me, I'll grab it with both hands.

...wait, that didn't come out right.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on February 29, 2012, 12:54:17 PM
At my age if anything can do it for me, I'll grab it with both hands.

...wait, that didn't come out right.
Then put it back and try again.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on February 29, 2012, 12:58:42 PM
At my age if anything can do it for me, I'll grab it with both hands.

Be careful - the valves in it might be hot by now.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on February 29, 2012, 12:59:14 PM
At my age if anything can do it for me, I'll grab it with both hands.

...wait, that didn't come out right.
Then put it back and try again.

Then keep going until you've got the lyrics for a comedy album.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on February 29, 2012, 04:10:33 PM
At my age if anything can do it for me, I'll grab it with both hands.

...wait, that didn't come out right.
Then put it back and try again.

Then keep going until you've got the lyrics for a comedy album.

About a large scarlet hybrid of a spoon and a fork?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on February 29, 2012, 05:04:07 PM
glad it's not a knife - Would you want Big Red Knorks?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on February 29, 2012, 05:15:43 PM
He'd never leave the house.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 01, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
Is that what made them red in the first place?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 01, 2012, 09:36:54 AM
I'm saying nothing.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 02, 2012, 03:29:55 PM
My new valves have arrived. Let the good times roll.

This weekend I shall be mostly singing the Shineback song 'Bedlham Days'. This is going to interesting as it's a drum and bass (old skool style) track.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on March 02, 2012, 05:17:12 PM
I'm saying nothing.
Absolutely.  That's Rob's job.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 06, 2012, 03:17:16 PM
Strange weekend just gone. I didn't work upon Bedlam Days but instead completed vocals for the first and last songs on the album (Is This The Dream? and Myowndreamland). You couldn't really get futher apart style wise as the former is kinda prog meets electronica, the latter is much more like the cinematic stuff from The Big Red Spark.

In other news, Mouse and I spoke for the first time using Skype. I also got to see Pedro's stolen bunting.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on March 06, 2012, 04:10:09 PM
I also got to see Pedro's stolen bunting.  ;D

euphemism alert?

;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 06, 2012, 04:16:02 PM
They are great cars them Euphemisms.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 06, 2012, 04:19:09 PM
We had one of them but the wheels fell off.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on March 06, 2012, 04:24:22 PM
and it leaked fluids all the time.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 06, 2012, 04:55:22 PM
Shineback is an even bigger myth than Tinyfish.

Don't even bother to discuss.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on March 06, 2012, 06:24:09 PM
I also got to see Pedro's stolen bunting.  ;D

euphemism alert?

;D

If it is, he won't like that I've strung 'em up...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on March 06, 2012, 06:25:59 PM
You couldn't really get futher apart style wise as the former is kinda prog meets electronica, the latter is much more like the cinematic stuff from The Big Red Spark.

And that's the only similarity to Tinyfish that I can hear so far. This really is going to be a different kettle of fish*, chaps.

*...Pun not intended, but I might run with it anyway.  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 06, 2012, 08:43:29 PM
In other news, Mouse and I spoke for the first time using Skype.
You didn't promise him anything, did you?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on March 06, 2012, 09:44:02 PM
He promised he would wear trousers next time.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 06, 2012, 11:07:13 PM
He promised he would wear trousers next time.

And you believed him?  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on March 07, 2012, 02:56:49 PM
He promised he would wear trousers next time.

And you believed him?  ::)
Wearing them on his head would be complying with the letter of the promise.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 07, 2012, 02:57:49 PM
And you think he'll manage that ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 07, 2012, 03:44:41 PM
I am a resourceful fellow.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 08, 2012, 06:16:51 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/5284ed4a-f790-0002.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 09, 2012, 09:13:54 AM
That's bullying, that is.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: hoboslobo on March 09, 2012, 09:39:39 AM
And more COWBELLS!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on March 09, 2012, 10:56:46 AM
And more COWBELLS!
Good advice there!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on March 09, 2012, 12:08:06 PM
There can't be too much cowbell.  You need the cowbell hero.

(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/34178457/DeeExpus.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 09, 2012, 12:36:37 PM
Mahler says "More Cowbell"
(http://images4.cpcache.com/nocache/product_zoom/576384394v2147483647_480x480_Front_Color-AshGrey_padToSquare-true.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on March 09, 2012, 01:04:19 PM
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1063/5118350688_7ff55d1561.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjforster/5118350688/)
Unitopia IMG_5416 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rjforster/5118350688/) by rjforster (http://www.flickr.com/people/rjforster/), on Flickr
Even the boys from Adelaide got it right when they said "More Cowbell, right now, over me"


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 09, 2012, 02:47:05 PM
(http://netdna.copyblogger.com/images/cowbell.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 09, 2012, 03:15:01 PM
Given what Sarah Millican said about cowbells on her TV show last night, I'd be very carefull.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on March 09, 2012, 08:01:18 PM
I wasn't given that. :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 10, 2012, 10:13:51 PM
Ah - but you don't live in Switzerland.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 19, 2012, 10:36:02 AM
The latest song to emerge from the Crow's Nest.

Little Keys
http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/little-keys (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/little-keys)

I was going to work on a song called Bedlam Days over this weekend but there were some issues over the lyrics which couldn't be sorted in time, so I diverted my attention to this little ditty. It was originally going to appear in the main body of the Shineback album but it lost out to another slowie called Faultlines which I felt better fitted the mood.

If all goes well, I plan to include this as a bonus track along with two or three other songs from the Godfrey vaults.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on March 19, 2012, 11:07:08 AM
I love Soundcloud.

Found a new SW track on it last night  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 19, 2012, 11:26:03 AM
Is it still there  ;)

Is it a new one or another old one he has stumbled upon ?  I find the historic stuff really interesting, picking out all the themes and ideas which have come out in different ways later on.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on March 19, 2012, 11:33:40 AM
Is it still there  ;)

Is it a new one or another old one he has stumbled upon ?  I find the historic stuff really interesting, picking out all the themes and ideas which have come out in different ways later on.

No. He's going to release it as a Ltd Edition Jewel encrusted CD and a 27.7 mix on whatever physical format comes after blu ray.  

It'll be available for 1ms via his website and also on the merch desk at the non-existent gigs he's playing.

It comes with a free Lasse Hoile artwork with space for you to draft your letter of complaint about how unfair it is, having been a fan before all those other people and before he was popular.

Oh and a link to the new website www.stevenwilsonwascoolbutnowhesinwiththemanandrippingoffthekids.com where you can register your disinterest.

Just for you James


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on March 19, 2012, 12:14:34 PM
I love Little Keys.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on March 19, 2012, 12:17:50 PM
I'm sorry James.

I'm sorry Simon.

I apologise.

Couldn't resist it.

I like Little Keys too.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 19, 2012, 12:33:14 PM
What are you apologising for ?

I like being kept ahead of the game so I can get these limited editions.

I would like it on blu ray, though.  i should buy a blu ray player.  In red.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on March 19, 2012, 12:34:42 PM
I'm disappointed it's only going to be out on formats I've heard of  :(


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on March 19, 2012, 12:35:57 PM
But if you had heard of them, you wouldn't haven't heard of them.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 19, 2012, 12:38:27 PM
That's easy for you to say, no-ears.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on March 19, 2012, 12:39:23 PM
But if you had heard of them, you wouldn't haven't heard of them.
At least they could have released it on a format that doesn't exist!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on March 19, 2012, 12:49:01 PM
But if they released it on a non-existent format, that format would then exist.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on March 19, 2012, 12:57:09 PM
But if they released it on a non-existent format, that format would then exist.
BEGONE WITH YOUR BLASTED LOGIC!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 19, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
this thread's turning out well again  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 19, 2012, 01:21:05 PM
The BEM Syndrome...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 19, 2012, 01:24:45 PM
I'm sorry James.

I'm sorry Simon.

I apologise.

Couldn't resist it.

I like Little Keys too.  ;D
Thank you sir and no apology needed.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on March 19, 2012, 01:37:14 PM
No-one ever needs to apologise for having a pop at James.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 19, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
No, there is no need to be sorry at the time.  You can just be sorry later.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 20, 2012, 12:16:47 PM
Just wanted to say a big thank you for everyone who has said such nice things about Little Keys. The number of thumbs up PMs I've received through Facebook and Soundcloud has been off the charts in comparison with previous songs I've released. I never expected to get such a positive reaction from something that really isn't a traditional prog track but I'm very, very happy people like it nonetheless.

Cheers everyone.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 20, 2012, 12:26:18 PM
It's excellent that they like a track which is isn't going to be on the album  ::)

 :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on March 20, 2012, 12:51:42 PM
The Bemsyndrome...
...another venue with a silly curfew, 18+ age-limit and a sticky floor?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 20, 2012, 01:18:45 PM
It's excellent that they like a track which is isn't going to be on the album  ::)

 :D
Who says it's not going to be on the album? I'd already earmarked it as one of the bonus tracks.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 20, 2012, 01:29:51 PM
If we let you have bonus tracks...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 20, 2012, 01:31:01 PM
What's the point of bonus tracks if we give them away free ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 20, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
The Bemsyndrome...
...another venue with a silly curfew, 18+ age-limit and a sticky floor?
Indeed so - and it will cater for a prog audience, with an adjoining curry house, a restroom for long-suffering spouses and partners, and Chris' much-vaunted moustache and beard trimming service.

(Though correct me I'm wrong, Chris, but you're almost pathologically clean-shaven yourself?)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 20, 2012, 01:33:02 PM
What's the point of bonus tracks if we give them away free ?
M'colleague makes an excellent point.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on March 20, 2012, 02:34:28 PM
What's the point of bonus tracks if we give them away free ?
M'colleague makes an excellent point.

Are you David Robinson in disguise?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 20, 2012, 02:52:57 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: benb on March 20, 2012, 04:24:45 PM
Love Little Keys!

Mad suggestion but would it be worth getting Jem to shop it to some pop tart who could have a hit with it & make you a few bob?

Would prefer to hear stuff like this on the radio


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 20, 2012, 04:31:46 PM
Love Little Keys!

Mad suggestion but would it be worth getting Jem to shop it to some pop tart via BEM who could have a hit with it & make you a few bob?

Would prefer to hear stuff like this on the radio


We're going to be millionaires by Christmas, Wilf  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: benb on March 20, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
 ;D bloody record companies!



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 20, 2012, 04:44:35 PM
 :D :D

In answer to your question Ben, I think Jem has plenty of his own tunes he can farm out to pop floozies without me riding on his coat-tails. That said, I'd love to see someone like Rolf Harris sing The Big Red Spark.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on March 20, 2012, 05:15:57 PM
I've just caught up with this.  Wow - another really nice song.  I don't hold with this prog/ non-prog thing.  I just like good songs - so thing one misses out - so the ones that make the cut must be really special.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: benb on March 20, 2012, 05:57:13 PM
Simon:

Get it to Adele = Milionaire ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 20, 2012, 06:05:21 PM
We're going to be millionaires by Christmas, Wilf  ;D
Result, Del-boy....er, James...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on March 20, 2012, 06:42:39 PM
Simon:

Get it to Adele = Milionaire ;)
Apparently 21 has just overtaken DSotM in the list of best selling albums in the UK.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on March 20, 2012, 07:00:05 PM
The latest song to emerge from the Crow's Nest.

Little Keys
http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/little-keys (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/little-keys)

I was going to work on a song called Bedlam Days over this weekend but there were some issues over the lyrics which couldn't be sorted in time, so I diverted my attention to this little ditty. It was originally going to appear in the main body of the Shineback album but it lost out to another slowie called Faultlines which I felt better fitted the mood.

If all goes well, I plan to include this as a bonus track along with two or three other songs from the Godfrey vaults.

Love it - if you don't want it i'll have it :)

Like the way fripp used Here Comes The Flood on Exposure. Its a lovely song mate. Love the chords.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 20, 2012, 08:00:16 PM
Like the way fripp used Here Comes The Flood on Exposure.
I heard a bootleg, years and years ago, of a show from Peter Gabriel's first solo tour, the one where Fripp played the whole gig sitting at the side of the stage, invisible to the audience. There's some guitar playing on the version of Here Comes The Flood (done just with PG on piano and vocals, and Fripp on guitar) which is utterly spine- tingling.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on March 20, 2012, 08:38:05 PM
Like the way fripp used Here Comes The Flood on Exposure.
I heard a bootleg, years and years ago, of a show from Peter Gabriel's first solo tour, the one where Fripp played the whole gig sitting at the side of the stage, invisible to the audience. There's some guitar playing on the version of Here Comes The Flood (done just with PG on piano and vocals, and Fripp on guitar) which is utterly spine- tingling.

Old Dusty Rhodes :) I'll have to see if i can fing that bootleg.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Ash on March 20, 2012, 08:51:57 PM
you have a very unique voice


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 21, 2012, 11:08:37 AM
Cheers Matt and thank you Sarah. That's a foot rub I owe you both.  ;)

I can also confirm this morning that Dec Burke is also on board the Shineback express to contribute guitars for the track Fears Aren't Toys.

This makes me a very happy bunny indeed!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 21, 2012, 11:13:41 AM
Who is going to play the guitars he is lending to you ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 21, 2012, 11:23:23 AM
Fool of a Took.

I might get to have a noodle but as with all playground loans, he's going to hold the guitar as I play it in case I suddenly run away.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 21, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
Is he expensive? :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 21, 2012, 12:47:03 PM
I have to send him a photo of you in just your pants.

Does that mean it's expensive?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 21, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
That is outrageous.

We'd expect at least a couple of solos for that.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Ash on March 21, 2012, 12:57:43 PM
Surely if he doesn't do the guitars you will send him a photo of Wilf in his pants???


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Ash on March 21, 2012, 12:58:36 PM
and thank you Sarah.

You can take it that way if you like  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 21, 2012, 01:09:50 PM
I have to send him a photo of you in just your pants.

Does that mean it's expensive?
Due to local strategic arms limitation treaties it may prove impossible to fulful.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 21, 2012, 01:55:40 PM
and thank you Sarah.

You can take it that way if you like  ;)
;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 21, 2012, 03:01:53 PM
I have to send him a photo of you in just your pants.

Does that mean it's expensive?
Due to local strategic arms limitation treaties it may prove impossible to fulful.

Phew, for a moment there I thought you were going to say that you never wear 'em, being a firm believer in going commando at all times.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 21, 2012, 03:04:26 PM
firm believer
Mouse will titter.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on March 21, 2012, 04:33:40 PM
I have to send him a photo of you in just your pants.

Does that mean it's expensive?
Due to local strategic arms limitation treaties it may prove impossible to fulful.

I read that as treacle.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 21, 2012, 04:37:43 PM
You can never have enough treacle. That's what my grandmother used to say.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on March 21, 2012, 04:47:31 PM
"Local Strategic Arms Limitation Treacle"

good name for a band.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 21, 2012, 04:47:33 PM
Ah, that'll be old Grandma 'Treacle' Godfrey, as she was known by the local constabulary.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on March 22, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
Thread stickied so that everyone can see how important it is :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 22, 2012, 09:10:29 AM
Is the answer "not very" ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 22, 2012, 10:14:05 AM
Thread stickied so that everyone can see how important it is :D
Just like treacle.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 22, 2012, 10:27:03 AM
Is the answer "not very" ?

...and miss the chance to attach the word "terribly" to the whole shebang?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 22, 2012, 11:07:14 AM
I requested this because I am terribly important.

...or is that impotent?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on March 22, 2012, 11:19:29 AM
I requested this because I am terribly important.

...or is that impotent?

Only your wife can judge. On either score.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 22, 2012, 11:25:46 AM
I would certainly want to be terrible at being impotent.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 22, 2012, 02:03:19 PM
I requested this because I am terribly important.

...or is that impotent?

Only your wife can judge. On either score.  ;D
Josie Lawrence (rawr!) tells a joke around such wordplay about the Mayor of Dudley. Unrepeatable here, not because it's particularly rude, but because you need to tell it in a Brummie accent.

Here's a picture of Josie, because she's lovely...

(http://img.tapatalk.com/5284efdc-311b-bbd6.jpg)

Rawr again.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on March 22, 2012, 07:07:07 PM
I found out Tony Slattery was gay when he refused to kiss Josie Lawrence.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 22, 2012, 07:11:13 PM
Even most gay men would snog Josie.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 23, 2012, 08:42:25 AM
It was a very pleasant surprise recently to find out that she was part of the general group of comedians when we went along to the Comedy Club.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 23, 2012, 09:10:55 AM
I found out Tony Slattery was gay when he refused to kiss Josie Lawrence.

Well, I never knew that.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Dec on March 25, 2012, 07:04:00 PM
Apologies for returning the thread to the topic, but, the song Mr G. sent me rocks, big style!
Who would have thought sheep noises in prog would work,  and yet they do   :)
Will be doing the solo this week, wish me luck, I'm going in.....

xx


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 25, 2012, 07:37:05 PM
I thought the sheep noises were only for the Cardiff non-gig.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 25, 2012, 08:31:38 PM
Apologies for returning the thread to the topic, but, the song Mr G. sent me rocks, big style!
Who would have thought sheep noises in prog would work,  and yet they do   :)
Will be doing the solo this week, wish me luck, I'm going in.....

xx

He never told us he was getting the Sheepotron out, but I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. So are you doing the kazoo solo, or have you drawn the short straw and ended up with the bagpipes?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 26, 2012, 11:17:08 AM
Apologies for returning the thread to the topic, but, the song Mr G. sent me rocks, big style!
Who would have thought sheep noises in prog would work,  and yet they do   :)
Will be doing the solo this week, wish me luck, I'm going in.....

xx
Prog sheep noises is the way forward sir. I trust your farm skills completely.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on March 26, 2012, 12:22:41 PM
Apologies for returning the thread to the topic, but, the song Mr G. sent me rocks, big style!
Who would have thought sheep noises in prog would work,  and yet they do   :)
Will be doing the solo this week, wish me luck, I'm going in.....
xx
Prog sheep noises is the way forward sir. I trust your farm skills completely.  :)
Good for playing baa chords


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 26, 2012, 01:09:35 PM
Ewe'd think so.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 26, 2012, 01:11:12 PM
I truly am in the arena of the unwell.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Bert on March 26, 2012, 01:22:46 PM
I truly am in the arena of the unwell.

What ails you Simon ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 26, 2012, 01:32:17 PM
I truly am in the arena of the unwell.

You must be unwell - you are in Tinyfish, not Arena.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 26, 2012, 02:38:26 PM
Damn, damn!!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on March 26, 2012, 02:41:55 PM
kind of a sheep learning curve around here.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 26, 2012, 03:18:24 PM
Ram it home, why don't you.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on March 26, 2012, 03:46:16 PM
Stop bleating on.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 26, 2012, 03:53:24 PM
I take it everyone is going to post a reply.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 26, 2012, 03:54:20 PM
All's wool that ends wool.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on March 26, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
You're all bloody baarmy... ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on March 26, 2012, 04:04:52 PM
I truly am in the arena of the unwell.

What ails you Simon ?

Maybe he's written this in some moment of drunken sincerity.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Purrdey on March 26, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
Has this turned into the welcome to Wales UB thread??


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on March 26, 2012, 05:02:46 PM
Has this turned into the welcome to Wales UB thread??
It seems that way!  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 26, 2012, 05:58:54 PM
Ewe would like to think so.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 26, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
Less of your (mint) sauce, young man.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Neville1308 on March 26, 2012, 08:47:22 PM
I take it everyone is going to post a reply.

I'm too sheepish to respond


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: The Naughty Sorceress on March 26, 2012, 09:51:56 PM
That's a lamb excuse!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Neville1308 on March 26, 2012, 09:57:03 PM
That's a lamb excuse!

 ;D

I wouldn't want to pull the wool over your eyes


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on March 26, 2012, 10:02:15 PM
aw, it's mutton.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 26, 2012, 10:32:15 PM
Good try, but I think you shanked it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on March 26, 2012, 10:35:50 PM
guess I'll get the chop, then.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Neville1308 on March 26, 2012, 10:58:48 PM
or at the least, a good bleating


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on March 26, 2012, 11:48:06 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on March 27, 2012, 05:50:30 AM
Is it heh, or wool?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 27, 2012, 09:57:44 AM
So is Shineback going to be reasonably priced or will BEM try to fleece us?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 27, 2012, 10:03:52 AM
We're keen to ram as much profit as we can.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 27, 2012, 10:14:59 AM
And ewe will know us by your trail of debt


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 27, 2012, 10:30:52 AM
Get the flock out of here.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 27, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
It's shear greed.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 27, 2012, 10:41:43 AM
Like lambs to the slaughter


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 27, 2012, 10:44:13 AM
Said the Big Bad Planking Wolf.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 29, 2012, 09:45:03 AM
Dec Burke passed me a copy of his guitars for the track Fear Aren't Toys last night and the man has delivered in spectacular style!

Cheers Dec. You'll be recieving your Christmas snog earlier than usual this year.  :-*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 29, 2012, 10:51:05 AM
Rocktastic! Real instruments, and everything!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Dec on March 29, 2012, 11:24:46 AM
Happy to help out mate, it’s a rocking song and no mistake!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on March 29, 2012, 11:44:53 AM
"Fear Aren't Toys"
Is that missing an "s"?

...or should the full title be; "Fear Aunt Toyah (because that means Bob's your uncle)"?

(I apologise for such frippery)  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 29, 2012, 01:11:49 PM
Fear Aren't Toys?  :o

 That aren't good grammar.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 29, 2012, 01:26:18 PM
"Fear Aren't Toys"
Is that missing an "s"?

...or should the full title be; "Fear Aunt Toyah (because that means Bob's your uncle)"?

(I apologise for such frippery)  :)

Bums, now I wish it WAS called Fear Aunt Toyah.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 29, 2012, 01:30:58 PM
Specially as the bedrock of BEM are good grammer.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on March 29, 2012, 01:33:21 PM
That too.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on March 29, 2012, 01:37:26 PM
Their's more than won ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 29, 2012, 03:27:28 PM
Bums, now I wish it WAS called Fear Aunt Toyah.
There's no law which says that the title on the cover has to be the same as the actual lyric ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on April 08, 2012, 01:26:51 AM
I will just say that Dec fookin' nailed it on this one.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on April 08, 2012, 06:54:36 AM
Which is very suitable around this time of year.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on April 10, 2012, 11:23:25 AM
 :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on May 25, 2012, 11:01:19 AM
Still working on fixing the studio computer which died the day after the last Tinyfish gig at The Peel. So far I've spent around a £1000 on replacement parts which have been installed in stages with a lot of technical help from David 'The Amazing Wilf' Elliot and Robert Ramsay. Thank you guys.

We weren’t able to diagnose exactly what went south with the old unit but we think it was either the motherboard or the CPU. Speaking personally, my money was on the CPU just being burnt out due to the workload and a lack of adequate cooling but naturally, I’m just guessing.

Almost everything in the machine has been replaced (the only original items are the case and one hard drive). We couldn’t use the original Windows 7 system disk to boot from so there’s a totally new Win7 install on a new hard drive. Once all the new kit is inside and working (this will hopefully be completed over the coming weekend), I’ve got to reload all the music software back in which is both a blessing and a curse. It’s a blessing because I get a clean install to play with and the choice of only loading the apps and plugins I need this time around which will make the system work a lot faster.

The downside is that there are close to 60 odd plugins in the must have category and I’ll have to hunt around the net to track down a good proportion of the activation codes and to inform the various software companies that I’m not trying to copy their product illegally. They are an incredibly paranoid bunch in this respect, even when you show them proof that you are on the level. There is no other way to get around the issue however so I’m resigned to a sequence of mini inquisitions via email to claw back all the lost installation data.

All in all, I’m looking at least another 2-3 weeks of tossing about before I can return to work properly on the Shineback album.

On the upside, Tim ‘Mouse’ Lawrie has been providing some excellent conceptual art for the project. His ideas are simply superb and I for one am really excited by what he’s come up with thus far. Talented bastard.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on May 25, 2012, 11:10:16 AM
Sounds like a very frustrating time, but one that is being handled in a typically British way.

Whatever, I'm sure that the end product will be of the normal Godfrey quality.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on May 25, 2012, 01:48:17 PM
I'm of the opinion that once everything is back and working, it will be very interesting to see how I feel towards the Shineback album. From a production point of view it's very much in the style of The Big Red Spark i.e. big themes and noises but from a writing perspective, I think it's a step forward into new territory.

Ironically, since I finally admitted to myself that my ears just can't hack it anymore, this album has come to symbolise the turning of a stylistic page in my head. I probably won't be coming back this way again. 


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: benb on May 25, 2012, 01:58:56 PM
Simon, i like many here have no idea of just how difficult this is for you.
looking forward to hearing the final results of your labour & wishing you all the best at the same time.
HURRY UP!! ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on May 25, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
It will be the BEST paper and comb album ever!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on May 25, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
Do you mean

The BEST paper and comb album in the world ever


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on May 25, 2012, 02:45:48 PM
Yes!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 25, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
I'm looking at this from a very positive viewpoint - the enforced break, though maddening, means that there's a chance to get a bit of perspective before continuing.

Or something.

Nah, actually I'm pissed off as hell that we couldn't get the previous install seated on the new hardware. Also, a new hard disk which was to go in to act as an archiving/backup silo is DOA - easily fixed (supplier replaces) but irritating.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on May 25, 2012, 06:45:58 PM
Whatever, I'm sure that the end product will be of the normal Godfrey quality.
God, let's hope not or we'll never shift any copies.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on May 26, 2012, 01:31:21 AM
I's cobbled together sh*t pictures, innit.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on May 26, 2012, 09:45:22 AM
They are not shit. They are excellent.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 26, 2012, 10:38:50 AM
<jamesmode>
They're okay.
</jamesmode>


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: benb on May 28, 2012, 11:25:39 AM
Simon,take your time with it mate.
BTW Axl Rose thinks you're a workaholic who's rushing it out ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on May 28, 2012, 11:38:00 AM
Cheers Ben. I got a similar message from Peter Gabriel and the Stone Roses.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on May 28, 2012, 12:49:27 PM
Kate Bush sends hugs x :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 28, 2012, 01:01:54 PM
Simon,take your time with it mate.
You're not helping here, Ben ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on May 29, 2012, 11:39:42 AM
I see Roger Waters is late to the party. Again.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on May 29, 2012, 01:54:16 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 10, 2012, 03:13:23 PM
Oh Harrow.  ;D

I'm back from my holidays down in the west country and oh boy did it ever rain.

The good news is that I can officially announce that my new studio computer is now back up and running. I did a complete run through of all the tracks and the data appears to be intact (if a little unexpectedly spread around several disks).

I'm going to be spending the next few weeks before the last two Tinyfish shows tidying up the data into one place and then after the last show at Celebr8, I'll be back in full Shineback mode.

So tell me, how was your Jubilee week?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 10, 2012, 03:31:21 PM
Apart from the driving wind and rain in Cornwall, it was fine.

So tell me, Simon - what is the character limit for volume labels on NTFS partitions if you don't want Pro Tools to throw a complete wobbler? ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 10, 2012, 06:05:14 PM
It would appear to be eleven sir.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 13, 2012, 12:33:27 AM
Nigel would be proud.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 19, 2012, 12:14:03 PM
Finally an update that doesn’t include lots of useless wibble about broken computers.

The Shineback recording schedule is due to begin again in earnest once we have completed the last two Tinyfish shows. I know that right now I could easily dive back into the project with both feet but as the two Tinyfish shows in July could be the last for the foreseeable future, I’d prefer to devote the proper time and attention to the Fishy rehearsals as we’re all eager to make them worth remembering. As a result, I will re-commence recording in mid July after we have Celebr8 out of the way.  

Although this could be seen as ostensibly a solo endeavour, I’m still working with that talentless bastard Robert Ramsay who is writing the majority of the lyrics for the album (see * below). In addition, we’ve a brilliant line up of well known guests who have very kindly contributed their time and effort plus there a few who I’m still talking to with regarding possible inclusion (more news on that in the near future).

The current tracklist is as follows:

May You Live In Interesting Times*
Is This The Dream?*
Bedlam Days*
Faultlines
Here Come The Envoys (Featuring Matt Stevens)*
Crush Culture*
Passengers
Fears Aren’t Toys* (Featuring Dec Burke)
Xo Va Yu
The Saint Of Doors
Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed (Featuring Hen Rogers, Matt Stevens and Andy Ditchfield)*
One Last Perfect Day*
Myowndreamland*

Interestingly, one of the benefits that the enforced hiatus is that it has me given is a fresh perspective on the material as I literally haven’t heard the songs in months. Even though the vast majority of the music is now in the can, my current feeling is that on re-listening to the music, I have unintentionally neglected the orchestral themes which I had originally planned on making a big feature of.

As such I’m arranging a few additional recording sessions during August/September to help re-integrate this element back into the record.  The album WILL be released through Wilf’s Bad Elephant Music label (possibly with some kind of listening party if we can find the right venue) and the album will serve to launch BEM as serious player in the recording/distribution market.

Both the BEM and Shineback websites should also be up and running later this year. The homepages of both will heavily feature pictures of me eating cake in just my pants and wellies. I’m told that is what all the hip bands are doing now. The current intent is that the Shineback album will be available in the first quarter of next year and the very reasonable price of ONE MILLION POUNDS EACH! *places little finger at side of mouth* It should be available via iTunes and hard copies through the Merch Desk.

There is also talk of a specially packaged collectors edition that will include additional tracks along with a DVD documenting the making of the album and an interview with yours truly and possible food fight depending on how well the interview goes.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 19, 2012, 12:48:32 PM
Not to go all Black Sabbath, but didn't I also do the verses for "Fears Aren't Toys"?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 19, 2012, 01:08:51 PM
No...no...no...no...no...no...

...yes.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 19, 2012, 01:34:55 PM
Just checking I hadn't gone insane. Fixed!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 19, 2012, 01:38:27 PM
Listening party, you say? Would that involve curry?  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 19, 2012, 02:31:15 PM
Now I like that idea immensely!  ;D

Closer to the time, we'll take a straw poll on the interest in attending such an event and organise a venue accordingly. The notion that we might have it in a curry house is very much a plus in my book.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on June 19, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
The notion that we might have it in a curry house is very much a plus in my book.
Double plus good.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 19, 2012, 04:11:47 PM
I have plans concerning the listening party.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: MikeEvs on June 19, 2012, 05:11:51 PM
A couple of bands I know have used The Royal George as a venue for launch/listening party


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 19, 2012, 09:53:58 PM
In the words of Max Boyce: "I was there!"


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 20, 2012, 08:26:44 AM
Do they do curry?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 20, 2012, 08:36:39 AM
alas no. Beer yes, curry, no.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 20, 2012, 08:49:28 AM
Well you know what they say; 50% of any success is nearly always down to beer.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 20, 2012, 09:50:37 AM
And the other 50% is down to curry.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on June 20, 2012, 10:31:39 AM
Who says percentages are not fun?  :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 20, 2012, 10:55:12 AM
What's the other 10% down to?

I know from watching telly that to make a proper effort you have to give at least 110%  :P


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Moray on June 21, 2012, 08:50:33 AM
Who says percentages are not fun?  :)

In my experience, about 1 in 10 people.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 21, 2012, 08:56:45 AM
1 in 10 people understand binary.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 21, 2012, 09:57:24 AM
1 in 10 people understand binary.

so 110010% then?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 21, 2012, 10:08:09 AM
Is percentage not meaningless in binary?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 21, 2012, 10:17:19 AM
well ok, 110010 out of 1100100 then!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 21, 2012, 10:25:21 AM
or 1 in 10.  :P


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on June 21, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
Look, the production on that album was FANTASTIC!

(http://yababoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Not-the-Nine-Oclock-News-gorilla-sketch.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on June 21, 2012, 10:58:47 AM
"Oh, anyone can make up statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forty percent of people know that."


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 21, 2012, 11:40:24 AM
70% of people can't add up to 100, while the other 40%...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 10, 2012, 11:56:32 AM
And so our attention turns to...

Nah, nothing to see here  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 10, 2012, 11:59:18 AM
There may be more news tomorrow.

But it's unlikely.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 10, 2012, 12:02:52 PM
But tune in anyway, just in case.

There's always news at 11.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 10, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
I watch on the BBC at 10.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 10, 2012, 12:36:47 PM
That's yet another sale gone...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on July 10, 2012, 04:24:44 PM
You can't be having a sale, it's not been full price yet.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 10, 2012, 04:25:50 PM
Straight to cover-mounted freebie


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on July 10, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
Solves any distribution issues.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on July 10, 2012, 04:28:47 PM
But which magazine does it get stuck to?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 10, 2012, 04:33:40 PM
OK.

Unless there's one out there called Below Average.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 10, 2012, 09:25:16 PM
We had a good conversation about Shineback, and I'm pleased to announce it will be released.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on July 10, 2012, 09:26:35 PM
Free the Shineback !


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on July 11, 2012, 06:10:23 AM
We had a good conversation about Shineback, and I'm pleased to announce it will be released.
The conversation will be released - I'll look forward to it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on July 11, 2012, 08:40:13 AM
We had a good conversation about Shineback, and I'm pleased to announce it will be released.
The conversation will be released - I'll look forward to it.

I'm still waiting for the Summer's End 2009 'conversation' to be released.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on July 11, 2012, 12:50:37 PM
And Letters To Lambsie from 2010.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 11, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
I'm still waiting for the Summer's End 2009 'conversation' to be released.
I'm not sure that's a great idea :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: mattstevens on August 30, 2012, 07:11:42 PM
Any Shineback News?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 30, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
No news is good news.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on August 30, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
Last I heard, Simon's kazoo had sprung a leak and his spoons had gone rusty and needed retuning.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 30, 2012, 08:11:13 PM
I shall break cover ;D

Simon has nearly completed the vocals, which constitutes the last tracking (recording) for the Shineback album. There are two songs left to complete - Bedlam Days, which has been problematic lyrically and thematically, and the title track, Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed, which is a monster of a song and therefore a mission to finish.

Once the vocals are done there's some editing of the live drums on Rise Up... to be done (recorded by the splendid Mr. Henry Rogers on our trip up to County Durham earlier this year), and then mixing can commence in earnest. The good news here is that Simon feels it won't be as much of a mission as we originally feared, as he's been doing a lot of the work as he records, which means that the final touches should be more straightforward. Simon and Mouse will be doing the mixing (Mouse is heading down to see us next month for some preliminary discussions) with my involvement in a sort of executive production capacity.

Timings are difficult to be precise about, because we all share the view that it's best to get things right, and when you've got day-jobs, family and other things to take into account it's hard to be prescriptive about schedules. However, it looks like we'll be done with production by Christmas (yes, this Christmas) which would mean an early 2013 release. All subject to change, of course.

A couple of people have asked me about the mode of release, pre-ordering and so forth, and although I can't answer any of those questions definitively, I think we can be pretty sure of the following:

  • The main mode of release will be CD, though we'll also be offering a digital release. It won't be released on vinyl of whatever weight or colour is fashionable at the time.
  • There will be a pre-order.
  • We'll be offering bonus content of some description as part of the initial release.
  • Chances are that mail order sales will be exclusively though a reputable mail-order specialist distributor who many of you know.
  • I'll be whoring Simon out to talk all over internet radio, and to the press etc.
  • The album will be performed live once and once only, at a special show at the Royal Albert Hall, featuring Simon singing/playing ukulele, backed by the English Sinfonia, and with a semi-staged interpretive ballet choreographed by Robert Ramsay.

So, there you have it. Oh, and trust me - it's worth waiting for.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 30, 2012, 09:19:37 PM
Whatever you're expecting, it won't be that.  ;D  It certainly doesn't sound like a Tinyfish record.

However long it takes could also depends how long it'll take the master of album art Vitamin P to conjure up some pretty pictures for the album. If he tells us to shove it, then they can use the very dodgy roughs I sold them for 5p.  :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on August 30, 2012, 09:22:44 PM
I want the box set. Must have marbles - and a cuddly toy, a fondue set, his and hers heated towel rails, oh and I guess the CD as well.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on August 30, 2012, 09:25:20 PM
no pants?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 30, 2012, 09:34:31 PM
No, but you get a moulded prosthetic with Simon's face on it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 31, 2012, 06:01:45 AM
However long it takes could also depends how long it'll take the master of album art Vitamin P to conjure up some pretty pictures for the album. If he tells us to shove it, then they can use the very dodgy roughs I sold them for 5p.  :D
You're overpricing yourself.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 31, 2012, 07:35:40 AM
I'm glad I knew all about this extravagant expenditure  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 31, 2012, 07:50:07 AM
Hey, you said that at least one of should be able to maintain plausible deniability.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 31, 2012, 08:32:48 AM
No, but you get a moulded prosthetic with Simon's face on it.
Are you sure it's my face?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 31, 2012, 09:02:28 AM
A moulded prosthetic what?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on August 31, 2012, 09:27:46 AM
A moulded prosthetic what?

That's what I was going to ask, but you beat me to it.
As long as he's not competing with Rammstein...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 31, 2012, 09:42:31 AM
I am sure you would love it if he actually was at a competitive level  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 31, 2012, 10:10:18 AM
To quote Frank Zappa: "It's almost like going to... well, never mind..."


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 31, 2012, 10:56:43 AM
"Everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads".


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 31, 2012, 11:01:04 AM
You will only find out what the prosthetic is once you BUY THE ALBUM.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 31, 2012, 11:17:41 AM
You will only find out what the prosthetic is once you BUY THE ALBUM.

Brilliant! And if you buy enough copies you can build yourself a completely prosthetic Simon!


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 31, 2012, 11:35:44 AM
Made entirely of elbows.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on August 31, 2012, 11:58:32 AM
Made entirely of elbows.

Well that's ok, it's impossible to tell the... oh I really can't go through with it...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on August 31, 2012, 12:03:39 PM
Made entirely of elbows.

Guy Garvey will like that. Maybe we could release it as an EP on his label?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 31, 2012, 01:03:48 PM
Made entirely of elbows.
Beyond depressing...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 31, 2012, 02:55:18 PM
The Shineback Q&A.

Q. Why does it take so long for you to produce an album?

A. I am in inveterate fiddler. I’ve always believed that the devil is in the detail and if there is detail to be found, you can be sure that I’ll be up to my neck in it. In doing so, I like to take my time with projects, especially when attempting to break new creative ground and the Shineback album is something I would most certainly classify as a record which is reaching into areas previously unsullied by prog.

Q. You keep breaking studio computers. Why is that?

A. I hate them and they hate me.

Q. Are you playing all the instruments yourself?

A. All of the great music on the album is played by me. All the rubbish and difficult stuff is played by musicians such as Matt Stevens (The Fierce And The Dead), Dec Burke (The Dec Burke Band/Frost*/Darwins Radio), Hen Rogers (DeeExpus/Touchstone), Andy Ditchfield (DeeExpus) and Hywel Bennett (The Dec Burke Band). These musicians represent the finest talent Prog has to offer for the price of a pint of larger and a packet of cheese and onion crisps.

Q. What is the title of the Shineback album and is there a story behind it?

A. The title of the album is Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed and yes there is a story. It’s about a young, very disturbed woman called Dora who takes a video camera into her dreams and records what she sees.

Q. Is it another bloody concept album?

A. Yes it bloody is; very bloody.

Q. Is it a prog album?

A. I think it is but I have a very warped sense of what constitutes a prog album. It’s not a 1970s prog album however. Of that you can be very sure.

Q. This album is to be the first release through a new label called BEM (Bad Elephant Music). Is that correct?

A. Yes, it's run by two really shady characters called David Elliot (who hosts The European Perspective Progressive Rock podcast) and James Allen (who doesn’t). They are really hard bastards and many a prog act has been ‘disappeared’ by their heavies. I do exactly what I’m told because they scare the living crap out of me.

Q. When will the album be released?

A. That is a question for BEM and be polite when you ask. My guess would be the first part of 2013.

Q. Will there be another Tinyfish album?

A. Yes. It will be terribly good; or maybe just terrible. We haven’t decided yet.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on August 31, 2012, 03:16:08 PM
I really don't.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 31, 2012, 04:29:52 PM
You could if you wanted. I've offered.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on August 31, 2012, 04:32:07 PM
These musicians represent the finest talent Prog has to offer for the price of a pint of larger and a packet of cheese and onion crisps.
James, did you sign off this expense?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on August 31, 2012, 04:42:23 PM
The Shineback Q&A.

Q. Why does it take so long for you to produce an album?

A. I am in inveterate fiddler. The chance to move certain drumbeats by a nano second, in the knowledge that only I know which have been moved, keeps me warm at night, so I keep moving them back and forth until I get fed up, and I'm easily pleased.

Q. You keep breaking studio computers. Why is that?

A. Incompetence is a long word I found in a dictionary that seems to sum up my ability with electronic items.

Q. Are you playing all the instruments yourself?

A. If you read the credits (if it finally emerges) - Yes. Rumours of any so-called prog-maestros being involved have been spread by others out of jealousy (and they want some money from the record company - some hope).

Q. What is the title of the Shineback album and is there a story behind it?

A. The title of the album is Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed and yes there is a story. Unfortunately, it was thought up so long ago, and I've changed everything so much, that it's now hardly relevant.

Q. Is it another bloody concept album?

A. Back to that dictionary again. Concept = An abstract notion. Abstract = Existing only in the mind. Ie. My mind, you don't want to go there, and I'm not telling you.

Q. Is it a prog album?

A. Yes. Because it's the only musical area likely to listen to it, the audience for death-metal loungecore being extremely limited elsewhere.

Q. This album is to be the first release through a new label called BEM (Bad Elephant Music). Is that correct?

A. Yes, Unless they can find something else to release before I get finished (which does offer them quite a few options).

Q. When will the album be released?

A. BEM will probably opt for a time of maximum market exposure and availability (that's availability of the Shineback album). 2013 has been mentioned only because nobody can think any further into the future.

Q. Will there be another Tinyfish album?

A. Yes. If only to stop that Ramsay fellow from phoning me up with more lyrics. I can't fit any more words into Shineback.



Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on August 31, 2012, 04:59:36 PM
Thanks for the translation, Trace.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on August 31, 2012, 05:13:40 PM
@ Trace  :D and agrees with Catherine  ;).


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 01, 2012, 09:48:07 AM
These musicians represent the finest talent Prog has to offer for the price of a pint of larger and a packet of cheese and onion crisps.
James, did you sign off this expense?
I specifically said no lager, and he seems to have followed my instruction to the letter.  That letter being r.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on September 02, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
That's uncanny, Trace. I think you've channelled the man himself there.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 03, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
Just had this text exchange from Andy Ditchfield who is recording a solo for the album's title track:

Andy: These chords are f*cking ridiculous to solo over you c*nt.

Simon: That's because they are special c*nt chords. For c*nts.

Andy: C*nt.


Naturally most of the above is technical muso speech so I don't expect many of you to understand the complexities of it.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 03, 2012, 05:25:11 PM
Blimey. That is technical...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on September 03, 2012, 06:54:34 PM
Just had this text exchange from Andy Ditchfield who is recording a solo for the album's title track:

Andy: These chords are f*cking ridiculous to solo over you c*nt.

Simon: That's because they are special c*nt chords. For c*nts.

Andy: C*nt.


Naturally most of the above is technical muso speech so I don't expect many of you to understand the complexities of it.

I read this to Cairn and we both lol'd.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on September 03, 2012, 07:42:10 PM
I almost cried with laughter.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 03, 2012, 08:00:50 PM
How the heck are we going to pay him for that ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 03, 2012, 08:06:30 PM
I have some ideas...though we may need to engage the services of Crowbar Colin...

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/04/ry4a3uhe.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on September 03, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
In fact, my abiding memory of Ditchfield wisdom is an exchange of text messages between Simon, sitting in my car on the way to County Durham to record drum tracks, and Andy, who was trying to figure out how to record said parts with Hen Rogers. Simon had just realised that he'd sent the wrong sort of tracks for the guys to record to.

Simon: I'm really sorry, I've sent you the wrong tracks. I sent you a flanged artichoke timed wowzer-bollock whereas in fact I should have sent you the sprangled version with extra 50k on the triangle (well, that was the gist of it)

Andy: C*nt

Simon: <more wheedling apologies for getting it badly wrong>

Andy: <sends a photograph of his and Hen's backsides>


These are clearly rank professionals we're working with.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on September 03, 2012, 08:55:14 PM
I wouldn't expect anything else.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on September 03, 2012, 10:09:29 PM
They rank as high as any in Rome.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on September 04, 2012, 12:04:24 AM
rank being the key word?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 17, 2012, 11:22:52 AM
An excellent weekend’s work with Mouse and Robert on the Shineback album. We managed to nail the lead vocal part for the title track in two takes before something in my system went bonkers and we began to get huge amounts of static on the microphone. It seems that nothing is easy with this or indeed ANY album I record but while previously I’d have been frustrated by the issue, I’m fast becoming inured to the litany of technical glitches which gleefully throw spanners into the schedule.

We also had a long and interesting chat via Skype with Wilf about the format and timing of the CD release (more on that in a  post from Wilf in the near future I would guess). The good news is that its now almost certain that Vitamin P will be doing the album artwork which pleases me no end as I love our Mr Tippet's stuff to bits.

Thanks to his part of the Skype chat being held via Wilf's iPad we were also able to join him in the garden to chase out a cat which had been squaring up to his own moggie Sid. We all felt so involved.

Thanks to Rob who really did nail the lyrics for the album’s title track ‘Rise Up…’ and a special mention must be made to Mouse who was incredibly helpful both behind the desk working the Pro Tools rig and as a reliable source of feedback on the takes as we worked through the song’s many sections. He helped to make what could have felt like work, a really fun session.

Mouse is on his way back to Hull this afternoon. He’s spending his morning mooching about central London and possibly frequenting more than a few record shops I suspect.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on September 17, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
Rather a lot of nailing going on...you must have all been hammered.

So the title of the album called "Shineback" is "Rise up..."?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on September 17, 2012, 12:16:33 PM
The album is by Shineback and is called "Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed". That is all, thank you. Try the fish.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on September 17, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
I had the fish

(http://www.dunaber.com/wp-content/files/2010/08/airplane_bad-fish.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 17, 2012, 01:26:11 PM
I should see that film again. I wonder if it's still funny?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on September 17, 2012, 03:30:37 PM
You can always laugh at the jackets and the haircuts.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on September 17, 2012, 04:48:23 PM
74 pages of comments - and it hasn''t been completed. 


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on September 17, 2012, 05:26:20 PM
It's just to keep us interested until the next Tinyfish opus appears.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on September 17, 2012, 06:40:09 PM
Could get to 100 easy.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on September 17, 2012, 07:00:27 PM
I am trying to restrain myself from the heckle.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 17, 2012, 10:43:50 PM
I should see that film again. I wonder if it's still funny?

Does Geddy Lee sh*t in the woods? Of course it's still funny!

The weekend was great fun. I was most relieved to find that recording music is still an activity I enjoy and that my degree didn't squeeze all that I liked about it out as I had initially feared. Being involved with Shineback is taking my experiences with music to a whole new level and I am so grateful they invited me on board. Thanks, guys.  :)

I spent this morning wandering around London trying to find the Bomber Command Memorial. I walked from Victoria Station to Buckingham Palace, through Green Park (which turned out to be St. James Park), back through St. James Park to Green Park, walked the wrong way through Green Park, then back through Green Park in the right direction, found the memorial, took a few photos and paid my respects, then walked back to the original place I walked to through Green Park to jump on the Underground to get my train/coach hybrid. Don't tell me I don't know how to live.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 18, 2012, 08:57:15 AM
Glad you enjoyed yourself mate. It was a lot of fun having you around and the work was all the more enjoyable for your help. At least you'll have a better idea why it takes so long for me to make an album. Bloody microphones... ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 18, 2012, 12:43:03 PM
At least you'll have a better idea why it takes so long for me to make an album. Bloody microphones... ;)

Yes, it turns out you're not sh*t at it after all.  ;) :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 18, 2012, 01:24:38 PM
I wouldn't go that far...  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on September 18, 2012, 02:01:50 PM
At least it turns out that isn't the only reason  :P  :-*


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on September 18, 2012, 02:50:21 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Pedro on September 19, 2012, 06:41:27 AM
...walked the wrong way through Green Park,
@Mouse: What is the wrong way to walk though a park? Hand on hip and skipping on every fourth step?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on September 19, 2012, 07:22:56 AM
Are you looking for a development grant for that slightly silly walk?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on September 19, 2012, 10:31:51 AM
...walked the wrong way through Green Park,
@Mouse: What is the wrong way to walk though a park? Hand on hip and skipping on every fourth step?

There is never a wrong way to walk, unless you replace the 'l' with an 'n', because that'll attract police attention.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 27, 2012, 09:37:34 PM
Ladies and gentlemen...an announcement.....

The Shineback album is going to be awesome. I'm listening to a rough mix of the first half, and it's totally fucking astounding. When Simon rings me up to tell me that something he's made himself sounds superb then I sit up and take notice, because he approaches almost Manningesque levels of self-deprecation a lot of the time...I'm happy to say that my feelings mirror his.

Right, I'd better get some more ducks lined up...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 27, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
Crispy, fried ones ?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 27, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
If necessary.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 27, 2012, 10:44:15 PM
It's all going swimmingly on the book of face.

Cousins are ace.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 29, 2012, 09:32:43 AM
Yeah my cousin Lisa is especially good at dredging up some choice memories from our family past.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 29, 2012, 09:35:34 AM
Yes, Phil.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 29, 2012, 09:36:29 AM
 :D :D Just in case some of you missed it. Here's a soundcloud link for an intro to a song called Here Come The Envoys.

http://soundcloud.com/sigod/here-come-the-envoys-intro (http://soundcloud.com/sigod/here-come-the-envoys-intro)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on October 29, 2012, 07:06:01 PM
I'm listening to it now, and I can say: This is REALLY going to piss off a lot of Mostly Autumn fans :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 29, 2012, 07:19:06 PM
They'll have to buy it to find out  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on October 29, 2012, 07:20:32 PM
I'm listening to it now, and I can say: This is REALLY going to piss off a lot of Mostly Autumn fans :D
Both of them?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 29, 2012, 08:55:18 PM
I'm listening to it now, and I can say: This is REALLY going to piss off a lot of Mostly Autumn fans :D
Every cloud has a silver lining ;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on October 29, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
I'm listening to it now, and I can say: This is REALLY going to piss off a lot of Mostly Autumn fans :D

I think they'll be even more pissed off once they hear the rest of that particular track.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on October 30, 2012, 07:07:03 AM
I think that I'm the only person on the forum who hasn't heard the album.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on October 30, 2012, 07:19:25 AM
Not quite.
If it wasn't for the group precedent, I'd be quite annyed by now.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 30, 2012, 07:50:02 AM
As things stand only the following people have heard Shineback, or some of it:

- Simon (well, duh)
- Robert (who wrote most of the lyrics)
- me (because BEM)
- James (also because BEM)
- Mouse (because he's helping with mixing)
- Paul (he's helped with engineering)
- the guest artistes (Hen, Andy D., Matt, Dec, and shortly Hywel - have I missed anyone, Simon?)
- anyone who heard TEP when I played an early version of Passengers

...plus I think Jem's heard some, and maybe one or two of Simon's trusted friends.

So that leaves over six billion potential buyers :)


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on October 30, 2012, 07:53:45 AM
And I think we've already heard Mr. Ditchfield's opinion :D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 30, 2012, 08:04:43 AM
Though to be fair, he says that an awful lot.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on October 30, 2012, 08:10:06 AM
Though to be fair, he says that an awful lot.

:D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: RobH on October 30, 2012, 08:12:54 AM
Was his comment... "That is ***** ***** you ***** ****"?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 30, 2012, 08:13:43 AM
Oh, and it'll certainly piss off any prog fans who can't or won't flex their listening muscles a bit and try something a bit different. Shineback is many things, but Prog with a capital P isn't one of them.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 30, 2012, 08:18:40 AM
I haven't heard it.

Oops.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 30, 2012, 08:23:52 AM
Was his comment... "That is ***** ***** you ***** ****"?
It may have been along those lines ;)

I can't remember whether Simon has related this story before...

In advance of our trip to County Durham to record the drums sessions for the title track Simon sent backing tracks to Andy and Hen in preparation. It was only when we were on the road that he realised that he'd sent the wrong tracks - not for a different song, but with the wrong mixes of click and music. It was a bit of a wobbly moment, because we weren't sure that we'd be able to complete the session successfully with those tracks - anyway, Simon texted ahead, giving a long summary of what he HAD sent, and apologising to the chaps profusely.

Andy sent a single-word reply. The word began with the letter c and had three other letters. Shortly afterwards two picture messages arrived, one of Hen and Andy making some ver elegant gestures, the second of both gentlemen's bottoms.

Of course, Hen nailed the parts like the pro he is, despite the usual drummer-whining about how tricky the timing was, how the song didn't make sense, how Simon was a silly sod, etc., etc.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: AmazingWilf on October 30, 2012, 08:24:46 AM
I haven't heard it.

Oops.
We have tried to get you to listen. But you boycott.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 30, 2012, 09:34:09 AM
Not quite.
If it wasn't for the group precedent, I'd be quite annyed by now.

That's duly noted Trace and I apologise because in your position, I'd probably be grinding my teeth too. I have stuck up one or two bits of rough work on both of my soundcloud pages to show people what I'm doing but I'm loathed to stick up any more for fear of ruining the main release.

We (i.e. Robert  ;)) are working on a specific Shineback website which should become the central source of info for the project containing all the clips collected thus far but in the meantime what I'll do is collect all the current bits of music together on the first page of this thread in case people are intersted.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on October 30, 2012, 10:09:48 AM
To be perfectly honest, what I want to do is buy the album and listen to it. The problem with having news so far in advance is that you can get a bit impatient. On the other hand, we all know you have other things to do besides Shineback and appreciate how long these things take.
However, a delivery date of some time in 2013 would be nice.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 30, 2012, 10:16:47 AM
I expect we can deliver the pre-order process in 2013.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 30, 2012, 10:51:14 AM
Thanks Trace, yours and indeed every fan's understanding of the process behind the music I/we create is appreciated.  :)

I know I might have said this before in other posts but I thought for those of you who might not be aware of my often my glacial methodology  ;), the long delivery times can be attributed to three things:

1. While I'm incredibly lucky in that the initial songwriting comes very easily and for the most part takes pratically no time at all in musical terms (nearly all the music parts I write takes a day or three at most to realise), the subsequent refinements to the arrangements and more importantly, the lyrics are another matter. 98% of the music you'll hear on the album has been consciously thought about and considered. Above all, the song has to ‘mean’ something, even if it’s only to me.

A good example of this consideration was to do with the large amount of time it took to realise the lyrics to a song called Bedlam Days. The subject matter is extremely unpleasant and it took both myself and Robert months to come up with a lyric that fitted correctly i.e. it didn't bash you over the head with overt description. The final draft took me seven hours to compile. That's seven hours on a Sunday with me sitting with all the previous draughts of the words switching them around to finally come up with the end result. When you listen to that song in particular, I hope all the background work remains unseen because I truly believe a lot of the art is to hide the work put in. It was enormously satisfying to complete though.  ;D

2. I obsess about the post production details. As mentioned above, there is stuff happening in the music I make which is to all intents and purpose, practically invisible to the listener yet without attention to which, the final result would be a much poorer listening experience.

For example, when recording backing vocals, I manually remove all the sibilant 'esses' and 'tees' along with the plosive 'pees' (Matron) because when you have layered more than two vocals together all of these multiple spike points tend to build up and your ears can be assaulted with high frequency stuff that can seriously detract from the listening experience. I know you can automate the process using a 'de-esser' through a vocal sub-mix channel (and have done so in other less important parts of the album) but that process often sounds unnatural to my ears and I find more control via manual editing than through processing. It also takes a lot less computer power which is another factor for someone at my level who doesn't have access to a pro studio set up. To give you an example of what I mean, the whole of the Big Red Spark was written, recorded and edited on a computer that cost less than £700.

3. I don't do this for a living which means that I work in every available bit of free time I have. My dayjob is just that and I'm happy to do it because it allows me to live a life and do what I love in between but when I lie on my deathbed, it'll be the music and not my days in the office I'll look back upon and think about fondly.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on October 30, 2012, 12:18:44 PM
Thanks Trace, yours and indeed every fan's understanding of the process behind the music I/we create is appreciated.  :)

I know I might have said this before in other posts but I thought for those of you who might not be aware of my often my glacial methodology  ;), the long delivery times can be attributed to three things:
They can't be the only reasons.  :)

BTW, Glacial Methodology makes a pretty good band name  ;D

R


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: roger on October 30, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
As I have said elsewhere, I am so looking forward to this album.  the vocals you shared on The Memory House 2, and the recent snippet on soundcloud have whet my appetite to a fine edge.  I think it's going to be a stonking corker!  (how's my Brit-speak?)

so if you need a pre-release listener on the States, I'm available!

;D


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on October 30, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
Couldn't Catherine have helped you with those previous draughts?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 30, 2012, 12:41:21 PM
 ;D bloody automated spell checker.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Trace on October 30, 2012, 12:44:23 PM
Just something else to blame.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Mouse on October 30, 2012, 01:37:15 PM
Here's what Simon's chucked up onto Soundcloud so far:

Shineback Album Audio Teaser (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/shineback-album-audio-teaser) - This runs through much of the album and gives a good idea of what to expect without giving too much away about what happens when. There have been quite a few changes made since this was stuck together, so it shouldn't spoil the first listen when the album is released.

Here Come The Envoys (Intro) (http://soundcloud.com/sigod/here-come-the-envoys-intro) - This is a rough mix of the intro to a song called Here Come The Envoys that Simon posted about a few pages back.

The Envoy (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/the-envoy-celebr8-theme) - The Envoy was used as the Celebr8 theme, but I believe it was a leftover piece from Shineback, so it's rather similar to some elements of the album.

Little Keys (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/little-keys) - Little Keys won't be on the main album, but it will be featured somewhere as a bonus track. Personally, it's one of my favourites from the Shineback canon and I think of it much more than a mere extra.

They are the four uploads that are most apparent to me as being directly relevant to RUF,RD, but there are a few other tracks on Simon's Soundcloud page here (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark) which may be of interest.

Over on YouTube, there are three related videos:

1. A teaser trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87bnRN4Ypo&feature=plcp&noredirect=1) for the album, featuring the more ambient element of some of the music.

2. The Memory House 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Me7krCeUAo&feature=plcp) video blog.

3. The Memory House 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG_nKkxRPoA&feature=relmfu&noredirect=1) video blog. This features the multi-vocal part Roger speaks of.

I don't know if that's all we'll see of The Memory House for now, or whether Simon will find the time to stick another one together nearer to the time of completion. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: A James on October 30, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
I don't want to wait.  Someone should have a word with the record company.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 30, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Here's what Simon's chucked up onto Soundcloud so far:

Shineback Album Audio Teaser (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/shineback-album-audio-teaser) - This runs through much of the album and gives a good idea of what to expect without giving too much away about what happens when. There have been quite a few changes made since this was stuck together, so it shouldn't spoil the first listen when the album is released.

Here Come The Envoys (Intro) (http://soundcloud.com/sigod/here-come-the-envoys-intro) - This is a rough mix of the intro to a song called Here Come The Envoys that Simon posted about a few pages back.

The Envoy (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/the-envoy-celebr8-theme) - The Envoy was used as the Celebr8 theme, but I believe it was a leftover piece from Shineback, so it's rather similar to some elements of the album.

Little Keys (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark/little-keys) - Little Keys won't be on the main album, but it will be featured somewhere as a bonus track. Personally, it's one of my favourites from the Shineback canon and I think of it much more than a mere extra.

They are the four uploads that are most apparent to me as being directly relevant to RUF,RD, but there are a few other tracks on Simon's Soundcloud page here (http://soundcloud.com/thebigredspark) which may be of interest.

Over on YouTube, there are three related videos:

1. A teaser trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I87bnRN4Ypo&feature=plcp&noredirect=1) for the album, featuring the more ambient element of some of the music.

2. The Memory House 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Me7krCeUAo&feature=plcp) video blog.

3. The Memory House 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG_nKkxRPoA&feature=relmfu&noredirect=1) video blog. This features the multi-vocal part Roger speaks of.

I don't know if that's all we'll see of The Memory House for now, or whether Simon will find the time to stick another one together nearer to the time of completion. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
Thanks Mouse, you're a star.  :) There is another Memory House video blog half completed which I plan to stick up in a few weeks time.

Robert, can you set this particular post by Mouse up as a locked sticky below the main Shineback thread?


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on October 30, 2012, 03:46:59 PM
As per I will be avoiding all the teasers etc. until the album comes out, so I hope they will be available after release as well.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Simon on October 30, 2012, 04:11:39 PM
I don't see why not. Chances are that they will be included on the Shineback website.

On one other point, the full version of Celebr8 theme The Envoy was indeed a cast off from the Shineback album and ran to about 6 minutes. It's the only full instrumental tune I've ever written but it seemed to slow the narrative down and got dropped as a result.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Robert on October 30, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
Stickied.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on October 30, 2012, 04:57:46 PM
...seemed to stickied the narrative down...


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on October 30, 2012, 11:04:35 PM
... got dropped as a result.

Special edition???


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on October 31, 2012, 09:47:03 AM
That's my hope yes.


Title: Re: Shineback
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on October 31, 2012, 07:47:25 PM
Couldn't Catherine have helped you with those previous draughts?

I might have done, if he had asked me nicely (and I'm still waiting for my chicken and chips...)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on November 01, 2012, 09:28:43 AM
Hey the last time I offered you disappeared. I didn't think it was possible to do that in a place as snug as The Peel.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on November 24, 2012, 06:40:51 PM
Oh, dear...people are actually expecting this to be released in 2013 (http://theladystabson.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/top-eargasms-of-2012-hot-listening-xxx.html)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 24, 2012, 07:42:45 PM
Ah, thanks Stacy. Thacy.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on November 26, 2012, 09:50:57 AM
More work this weekend editing Hen Rogers drums for the album title track i.e. moving little dots about the screen and performing the semi regular offsite backup of all the album data (I've now learn't not to name your extrernal hard drive anything longer than 11 characters or it makes Pro Tools crash).





Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on November 26, 2012, 09:51:57 AM
(I've now learn't not to name your extrernal hard drive anything longer than 11 characters or it makes Pro Tools crash).

Oh you are kidding. Robert's capsule review...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on November 26, 2012, 01:38:35 PM
You can't use the letter 'e' in the name, either.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on November 26, 2012, 02:08:29 PM
I'm not usually that gullible Mouse. Although it's actually slightly believable.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on November 26, 2012, 02:12:33 PM
I'm not usually that gullibl Mous. Although it's actually slightly blivabl.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on November 26, 2012, 02:23:36 PM
once again, James demonstrates his mad ProTools skillz.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on November 26, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
Iz asy and simplz


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on November 26, 2012, 02:38:54 PM
(I've now learn't not to name your extrernal hard drive anything longer than 11 characters or it makes Pro Tools crash).

Oh you are kidding. Robert's capsule review...
No word of a lie and in addition; Native Intruments plugins although brilliant when they work, are as unstable as a drunken toddler. I'm currently unable to use any of the Reaktor plugins since the last Win7 updates. I have submitted a crash log to NI but usually you just have to not use them until they release their own updates.

This tends to happen at least once a year.  ::)


 


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 26, 2012, 04:04:32 PM
I'm so buying you a cassette recorder for Christmas.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on November 26, 2012, 04:06:13 PM
I'd only break it trying to turn it into some kind of synth.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 26, 2012, 04:35:09 PM
;D

Wasn't there that guy who made a 'Mellotron' from loads of cassette players?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on November 26, 2012, 04:41:30 PM
Yes indeedy!

http://mysterycircuits.com/melloman/melloman.html (http://mysterycircuits.com/melloman/melloman.html)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on November 26, 2012, 06:59:32 PM
That's proper genius, that is.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on November 26, 2012, 07:28:04 PM
(I've now learn't not to name your extrernal hard drive anything longer than 11 characters or it makes Pro Tools crash).

Oh you are kidding. Robert's capsule review...
No word of a lie and in addition; Native Intruments plugins although brilliant when they work, are as unstable as a drunken toddler. I'm currently unable to use any of the Reaktor plugins since the last Win7 updates. I have submitted a crash log to NI but usually you just have to not use them until they release their own updates.

This tends to happen at least once a year.  ::)


 

IK Multimedia, anyone?  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on November 27, 2012, 09:46:07 AM
Yeah, them too.  >:(


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on November 27, 2012, 12:13:08 PM
Perhaps Shineback should be in a different area - it's more than "Other Bands" - it's a sideproject of someone in Tinyfish.  Perhaps there should a dedicated section for these.  We could cover Rob's guest appearance, Leon's acting etc.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on November 27, 2012, 12:46:50 PM
That's not a bad idea Rob. Maybe at some point we could create a side projects category to collect all the Tinyfish related music and activity together in one place.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on November 27, 2012, 04:46:30 PM
I can do that.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on November 27, 2012, 08:38:04 PM
But will you ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on December 04, 2012, 12:56:23 PM
I gave a phone interview to Malcolm Dome of Total Rock magazine yesterday concerning Shineback for (I presume) the January edition of the magazine. If anyone spots it, let me know as I'd like to have a look to see how much of the swearing and references to sock puppets he's been forced to remove.

A big thank you goes out to Twang for putting him in touch with me. That's a beer I owe him.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 04, 2012, 04:18:16 PM
Beware of Godfreys baring alcohol...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 04, 2012, 10:29:11 PM
Beware of Godfreys baring alcohol...
So the bottle was wearing trousers before Simon got hold of it...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on December 10, 2012, 10:10:47 AM
Has a bit of a wobble this weekend as I slowly realised there is a lot of work to do on the rhythm parts on the album or rather how much electronica I wish to introduce into the drum tracks.

The main aim of the album was to begin with a distinctive electronic feel at the beginning and slowly as the tracks go by, to introduce more and more traditional rock and classical elements into the sound with the aim of mirroring the change of personality that our protagonist Dora undergoes in the story.

This turn around is due in part to frankly astounding performance Hen Rogers recorded for the title track which (to put it mildly) has raised the bar considerably from a performance persepctive. I how have to decide if I need to go back and re-do some of the other drum tracks so that the title song doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.  :)

 


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on December 10, 2012, 10:19:41 AM
You do know that you are eventually going to have to let your baby make its own way in the world. I know you want it all to be as good as the very best bit of it, but that way madness lies.

Of course if stuff is wrong with it then fix it, but then let it go.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on December 10, 2012, 10:31:20 AM
doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.  :)
Surely in this instance it is the other nine metaphorical digits that are sore while the thumb has somehow escaped all injuries and indeed now looks perfectly manicured?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 10, 2012, 12:32:55 PM
You do know that you are eventually going to have to let your baby make its own way in the world. I know you want it all to be as good as the very best bit of it, but that way madness lies.

Of course if stuff is wrong with it then fix it, but then let it go.

Once again, our UB has it right on the money.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on December 15, 2012, 01:04:06 PM
New Prog magazine.
I almost recognise the fellow on page 14. It's Simon, looking serious (amazing what you can do with computer imaging these days), saying that he is committed to getting the Shineback album finished by the end of January. Oh, i've just noticed he doesn't say which January.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 15, 2012, 09:56:36 PM
 :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on December 17, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
New Prog magazine.
I almost recognise the fellow on page 14. It's Simon, looking serious (amazing what you can do with computer imaging these days), saying that he is committed to getting the Shineback album finished by the end of January. Oh, i've just noticed he doesn't say which January.

That's the plan.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on December 17, 2012, 03:19:48 PM
The best laid plans of men and Mouse aft gang agley.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 17, 2012, 03:22:44 PM
Mouse has hurt his finger, so I think all plans have gone out of the window.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 17, 2012, 03:26:38 PM
Simon, Robert and I discussed Shineback yesterday. The album is very nearly finished...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 17, 2012, 03:30:44 PM
...not until James and I say it's finished, it isn't!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/17/vuheguvy.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 17, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
I like your hat there, Wilf. Very folk.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 17, 2012, 06:52:19 PM
Fol-di-rol.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 17, 2012, 10:43:48 PM
Auto-da-fé.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 18, 2012, 09:02:59 AM
...which is appropriate, as Gay Woods, the singer in Irish new wave band, Auto Da Fe, was previously in Steeleye Span.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 19, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
Woo, BEM's first ever mention in the national press, in Simon's wee interviewette in the new Prog.

Cheers Simon. Chimon. ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 19, 2012, 12:07:27 PM
Am I boycotting that mag ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 19, 2012, 12:08:01 PM
Might be worth not doing so, for this edition at least.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 19, 2012, 08:45:41 PM
Am I boycotting that mag ?

You both better start being nice to them, you know. They might be able to help on the promotional front in future.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 19, 2012, 08:55:05 PM
I think you'll find our money will be just as easily accepted as anyone else's.

Anyway, they don't even know who Wilf is  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 19, 2012, 09:22:37 PM
Are you talking about Wilf, International Man of Mystery?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 19, 2012, 09:30:30 PM
Who ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 19, 2012, 09:36:34 PM
The Scarlet Wilfernel?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 19, 2012, 09:46:45 PM
He sounds like your kinda guy.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on December 19, 2012, 11:11:41 PM
They seek him here, they seek him there,
Those proggies seek him everywhere,
Is he in the Scala or in the Peel,
That demmed elusive Wilfernel!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 19, 2012, 11:25:32 PM
They seek him here, they seek him there,
Those proggies seek him everywhere,
Is he in the Scala or in the Peel,
That demmed elusive Wilfernel!

That first draft of lyrics for Bedlam Days was never really quite right, was it?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on December 19, 2012, 11:49:42 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on December 20, 2012, 07:15:42 AM
81 page!!!  And this is before the album is released.  If we keep going we can get this to 100 pages.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 20, 2012, 08:42:32 AM
81 pages!  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 09:18:06 AM
81 pages!  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 09:20:41 AM
81 pages - wow!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 09:22:16 AM
They seek him here, they seek him there,
Those proggies seek him everywhere,
Is he in the Scala or in the Peel,
That demmed elusive Wilfernel!
That's touching, Robert ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 09:22:54 AM
You both better start being nice to them, you know. They might be able to help on the promotional front in future.
I'm never otherwise.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 09:32:51 AM
Always otherworldly instead.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on December 20, 2012, 09:55:23 AM
81 page!!!  And this is before the album is released.  If we keep going we can get this to 100 pages.

Only 100?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 10:03:48 AM
It pales into insignificance against The Count.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 11:25:22 AM
It pales into insignificance compared to how many albums we will sell.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on December 20, 2012, 11:35:22 AM
102?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 12:00:49 PM
10r2?
Corrected your typo.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on December 20, 2012, 12:48:05 PM
Simon has that many relatives?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on December 20, 2012, 01:20:36 PM
82!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on December 20, 2012, 01:45:01 PM
82  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 01:49:27 PM
82  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 01:51:04 PM
82 :(


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 01:52:08 PM
100 by Christmas  8)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
That's just on pre-sales.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 01:57:36 PM
1 by Christmas  8)
Amended, then.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 02:00:01 PM
Nah, bugger that - I'm not paying for it...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 02:03:26 PM
We'll sell it to Mouse.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 02:05:56 PM
He's got to do something with his Royal Mail wad.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
It'll be a limited edition of one, so he'll pay more for it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
We'll need special artwork and all that.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 02:26:55 PM
We could tell him it's a white label and do it with no artwork.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 02:27:14 PM
83  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 04:19:20 PM
We could tell him it's a white label and do it with no artwork.
That's a bit like the actual release, though.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 04:30:03 PM
He'll think he got the real thing early and be happy.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
It's got a lot of merit, this cunning plan of yours.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 20, 2012, 06:11:59 PM
83  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 06:23:38 PM
...or 62, depending....


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 20, 2012, 06:26:55 PM
Bloody Tapa  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 20, 2012, 06:30:50 PM
It's like prog, innit?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on December 21, 2012, 10:25:43 AM
It's almost like I don't need to be here to watch my glorious career crash down in flames.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 21, 2012, 10:28:17 AM
'have watched'


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on December 21, 2012, 10:29:58 AM
I hate you Milkman Dan!  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on December 21, 2012, 12:32:16 PM
It's almost like I don't need to be here to watch my glorious career crash down in flames.  ;D
Flames cost extra, what with the price of petrol these days.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 21, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
We might be able to do him some cheap flames. I'll donate a candle.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 21, 2012, 03:27:49 PM
Both ends ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 21, 2012, 03:31:01 PM
Dirty boy.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 21, 2012, 03:36:27 PM
So out of context  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 21, 2012, 03:36:52 PM
84  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 21, 2012, 03:37:39 PM
So out of context  ::)
Context is for the weak.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 21, 2012, 03:56:16 PM
Well, that certainly puts Mouse into context.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 21, 2012, 05:38:35 PM
F*ck you, Jamie.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on December 21, 2012, 05:57:19 PM
heh

(tell him to go do the dishes.)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 21, 2012, 06:05:35 PM
He should totally change his forum name to Jamie.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on December 21, 2012, 06:07:16 PM
agreed!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on December 22, 2012, 12:36:01 AM
Just don't ask him to show you his magic torch.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on December 22, 2012, 01:05:18 AM
O.o


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 22, 2012, 08:53:45 AM
Please, no...  :o


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 22, 2012, 08:10:07 PM
I already showed it to Ash.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 22, 2012, 09:19:43 PM
Poor Ash.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 22, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
She didn't complain.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on December 22, 2012, 10:46:04 PM
She couldn't speak properly afterwards!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on December 22, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
I doubt she ever will again!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on December 27, 2012, 10:32:23 AM
An item of late news (if you don't inhabit Facebook). I have completed the editing of Hen Rogers drum parts for the album's title track and am now just waiting on Hywel Bennett's guitar solo for same.

The list of tasks for the album is now quite encouragingly short. I need to add just a few short vocal parts to round out some of the re-arranged songs at the end of the album and then rinse each track through one last refining mix and I'll be ready to hand over the album to those bastar...er, gentlemen at BEM just before my trip to Philly at the end of January.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on December 27, 2012, 11:54:12 AM
No, they are bastards.

Also, hooray!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on December 27, 2012, 12:30:16 PM
Hooray !

And hooray to the bit about delivering the goods.  Finally.

I'll believe it when it happens.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on December 27, 2012, 12:35:54 PM

I'll believe it when it happens.

You think you're the only one?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on December 27, 2012, 01:02:21 PM
No, they are bastards.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/27/ajeqeged.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 02, 2013, 05:57:11 PM
All I can say at this stage is "blimey". You're all in for a real treat next year. Er, this year. Er...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on January 02, 2013, 06:43:05 PM
It'll be here when it's ready.  Chickens and unhatched eggs come to mind.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on January 02, 2013, 07:24:26 PM
Chicken and eggs for dinner tomorrow, then.

Also, yeah. 'Kin' 'ell. The Godfrey's done a good 'un.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on January 02, 2013, 09:48:40 PM
Stop it!!  stop it!  stop it!!  we're are going all blimey looney in anticipation!! the little bits I've heard so far make me change my trousers, so stop it!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on January 02, 2013, 10:28:12 PM
Calm down and go and have a look at my Facebook cover photo...  :P ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on January 02, 2013, 10:43:24 PM
yeah, I did, and it means nothing to me!

so I'll go look again...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on January 02, 2013, 10:54:39 PM
Oh, Vienna.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on January 03, 2013, 10:40:11 AM
I was going to say that!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on January 03, 2013, 11:48:42 AM
If all goes well, there will also be three bonus tracks to go with the album: Little Keys, I Have Good Days, I Have Bad Days and A Shirt Of Scars.

All of the songs were part of the original concept but were cut to keep the narrative a little more snappy. Imagine them much like a deleted scene from a film and you're in the right ballpark as to their collective feel. :-)



  


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on January 03, 2013, 01:11:22 PM
Little Keys, which y'all can hear on Soundcloud, is still one of my favourites from the album.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on January 20, 2013, 04:25:01 PM
The secret is out...the real inspiration behind Shineback (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21082873)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 20, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
Oh, cheers for that, James - no-one will buy it now...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on January 20, 2013, 04:34:09 PM
Or...more people might buy it...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on January 20, 2013, 06:22:36 PM
Suggest we rename track one, part two The Bird Of The Long Sh*t.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on January 20, 2013, 10:01:32 PM
I did think between posting here or posting in The Count, and decided that as with previous so-called landmarks I should take the opportunity to be serious for a while, and for no longer than a while.

I have to say that one of the big excitements of 2013 for me will be the opportunity to play a small part in bringing the Shineback project to a very successful completion.  I know that we can all count on your support, and I trust that you know I will be putting 30,000 posts worth of effort into it from my side.

So, nothing else to see here, move along.

 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on January 21, 2013, 05:17:46 AM
well done, brother!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on January 21, 2013, 07:19:01 AM
30,000 is our target for pre-sales. James is in charge of publicity and PR, so that should be achievable.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on January 21, 2013, 07:54:49 AM
Phil at Radio Caroline asked me about Simon at the Panic Room gig in Gloucester before Christmas.  I told him that Simon has a new album out soon.  At which point Phil said that James would be peddling it to everyone.  I then replied that he has good reason now.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on January 21, 2013, 08:10:11 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 19, 2013, 07:30:45 AM
An announcement...

We will soon be announcing the date on which we will be announcing the date on which pre-sales will...er...be announced.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on March 19, 2013, 08:33:46 AM
Were it be left to James, the announcement would be linked to the count thread getting to 600 pages or something.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 19, 2013, 08:40:47 AM
Can't be long then.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 19, 2013, 08:51:11 AM
*waits patiently*


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 19, 2013, 08:54:37 AM
*waits impatiently*

(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/tantrum.gif)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 19, 2013, 09:00:07 AM
There was supposed to have been a countdown to the announcement about the forthcoming announcement  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 19, 2013, 10:50:46 AM
You'd better start one retrospectively, then.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 24, 2013, 08:09:02 PM
You can see some photos from today's listening session here (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.398687536896108.1073741834.100002645949740&type=3)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 24, 2013, 10:33:52 PM
DONE DONE IT'S DONE DONE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 24, 2013, 10:47:54 PM
And here is a blog about the listening session which facebook would rather I did not post in their precious groups (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=1839)  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 24, 2013, 11:00:36 PM
want now.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 24, 2013, 11:01:56 PM
Me too.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 24, 2013, 11:17:21 PM
Me three. I still haven't actually heard the final version of the title track.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 24, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
No-one has  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 24, 2013, 11:31:19 PM
Not even Simon?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 24, 2013, 11:35:19 PM
Not til he fiddles with a few bits...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 24, 2013, 11:37:10 PM
Do I have to go back down to London next weekend, too?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 25, 2013, 09:08:38 AM
A comment on my blog from Cliff 'Progzilla' Pearson

"I have a Shineback-shaped slot reserved on a future edition of Progzilla! B-> "

 :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 25, 2013, 09:41:53 PM
United Kingdom, United States, Sweden, Canada, South Africa, India, New Zealand, Norway, France, Brazil, Germany and Greece have looked at the blog.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 25, 2013, 09:51:37 PM
...and over 100 'likes' for the Shineback Facebook page on the first afternoon of operation. Standard.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on March 25, 2013, 10:10:11 PM
Random.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 25, 2013, 11:18:46 PM
If everyone could share that Facebook page and spread the good word whenever possible (friends, co-workers, long distance relative, street tramps), that would be super cool and we will love you forever.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 25, 2013, 11:21:14 PM
One of the Facebook page followers just posted this, which is a work of crazed genius:

(http://www.starjump.org/files/shinequack.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 25, 2013, 11:25:46 PM
Wonderful.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 25, 2013, 11:34:00 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 26, 2013, 07:08:53 AM
My Shineback blog has been viewed 100 times.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on March 26, 2013, 07:14:55 AM
100 different people or 1 person 100 times?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 26, 2013, 09:07:41 AM
Not quite 100 different people but almost...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on March 26, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
Some return in disbelief.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on March 26, 2013, 12:07:14 PM
United Kingdom, United States, Sweden, Canada, South Africa, India, New Zealand, Norway, France, Brazil, Germany and Greece have looked at the blog.
If you pay me enough, I'll go to some remote place and look at the blog.  Walsall perhaps.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on March 26, 2013, 01:11:48 PM
I'm afraid the France one was only me... :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 26, 2013, 03:27:23 PM
I will check to see if there was more than one from France  ::)

I know a few French proggers who should be into this.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 26, 2013, 03:36:44 PM
There was more than one from France and now Spain have joined the party - El Simon !


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 26, 2013, 03:53:38 PM
One from Wales at least.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 26, 2013, 04:03:25 PM
Wordpress likes to refer to Wales as the United Kingdom  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Neville1308 on March 27, 2013, 04:05:06 PM
Spain would be me.

I've been a bit quiet lately.  Too much going on (70 hour working week average :-( ) but I am looking forward to this and will do my best to promote it around these parts.



Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 27, 2013, 04:10:20 PM
Excellent  8)

Apart from the work bit  :(


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 27, 2013, 04:29:01 PM
Wotcha, Nev. Busy is good, but not too busy. Hope you're well, dude.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 27, 2013, 09:40:46 PM
Poland and The Netherlands are in on it now as well.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on March 28, 2013, 09:36:13 AM
Netherlands is probably TA.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 28, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
There was more than one  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 28, 2013, 11:07:16 AM
TA multiple times, then.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 29, 2013, 06:32:15 PM
A wee announcement which may interest you...and you heard it here first....

Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed will be released by Bad Elephant Music on 1st July 2013.

Fusing pop, prog and electronica into a story of abuse, betrayal and madness, Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed is the new album from Shineback, solo project from Simon Godfrey of Tinyfish. The album - with lyrics from Simon's writing partner in Tinyfish, Robert Ramsay - centres upon the story of Dora who undertakes a fantastic, yet disturbing journey into her own dream word where she encounters dark revelations about her past buried in memory.

To aid Simon in this venture, artists such as Matt Stevens (Fierce And The Dead), Dec Burke (Frost*, Alpha Flood, Darwin's Radio, Dec Burke Band), Henry Rogers (Touchstone, DeeExpus, Final Conflict), Andy Ditchfield (DeeExpus), Hywel Bennett (Dec Burke Band) Paul Worwood (Tinyfish) and Danny Claire (Ion Blue, Michael Angelo) have contributed their time and talents to make this a truly genre crossing record.

We are taking pre-orders for the album - and for limited edition Shineback T-shirts - at The Merch Desk (http://www.themerchdesk.com/) from 1st April. If you pre-order before 15th June then you will receive, by email, a code to download an exclusive bonus track from the album sessions, I Have Good Days, I Have Bad Days. This track will only be made available to those who pre-order the album. Furthemore, pre-orders for CD and T-shirt bundles will be at a special price, again, only available if you order before 15th June.

A download-only 'single' from the album will be released on 3rd June together with a 'B-side' that isn't on the CD.


More news - including track listings - to follow.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on March 29, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
Huzzah!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 29, 2013, 08:07:57 PM
Cha!!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 29, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
Yes, pre-order before midday on 1st April  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on March 29, 2013, 10:45:12 PM
Dora who undertakes a fantastic, yet disturbing journey into her own dream word where she encounters dark revelations about her past buried in memory.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PgTdBnSOydA/UIsCmR3UPqI/AAAAAAAAF54/c7SPsmgZbvk/s1600/dora.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 30, 2013, 12:46:32 AM
Yes. That's exactly it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Bert on March 30, 2013, 12:24:24 PM
"Swiper ! No swiping !"

"Oh man..."


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 30, 2013, 02:00:26 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/62313_553885017965673_1496725093_n.png)

Shiny.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 30, 2013, 02:09:47 PM
...and back. Shiny and back.

Shineback.

;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on March 30, 2013, 03:22:33 PM
Oh, I like that a lot.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 30, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
that'll make a nice tshirt.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Espen on March 30, 2013, 07:55:21 PM
I want that t-shirt. With "back" on the front, that is.

:D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 30, 2013, 07:58:04 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 30, 2013, 08:18:26 PM
T-shirts are available :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 30, 2013, 08:31:23 PM
are or will be?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 30, 2013, 08:49:38 PM
On black, it looks like.  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 30, 2013, 08:50:44 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 30, 2013, 09:34:13 PM
You can have tshirts in any colour...provided it's black.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on March 31, 2013, 04:07:06 AM
I would very much like this on a shirt, however... Once more, I shall make a plea regarding tee shirt quality. My previous efforts on other forums have been met with either no response or the loud blinking commonly associated with a lack of comprehension. Perhaps the UK only has one quality of cotton available for such things, but I have a closet full of shirts I won't wear because they were made of cheap cotton that acts as a hair/lint magnet, isn't soft, doesn't breathe (thus making the shirt more like a sweater), neck holes too small, etc., etc.

Most of the shirts I DO wear are made from the carcasses of plush teddy bears and are thus ridiculously soft, and I would gladly pay a premium to have a higher quality shirt. Just throwing that out there.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 31, 2013, 08:18:52 AM
When it comes to tshirts we just follow a universal truth - Nellie will tell us what to do, and we will say 'yes, Nellie'


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on March 31, 2013, 08:53:30 AM
I would very much like this on a shirt, however... Once more, I shall make a plea regarding tee shirt quality. My previous efforts on other forums have been met with either no response or the loud blinking commonly associated with a lack of comprehension. Perhaps the UK only has one quality of cotton available for such things, but I have a closet full of shirts I won't wear because they were made of cheap cotton that acts as a hair/lint magnet, isn't soft, doesn't breathe (thus making the shirt more like a sweater), neck holes too small, etc., etc.

Most of the shirts I DO wear are made from the carcasses of plush teddy bears and are thus ridiculously soft, and I would gladly pay a premium to have a higher quality shirt. Just throwing that out there.
A lot of band t-shirts are Fruit of the Loom which are horrible. One wash and they turn to cardboard. I'm now using Gildan Softstyle which, as the name suggests, stays soft. They only go up to 2XL so the larger sizes have to be in the "heavy" weight.
I do try to listen to what people want  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 31, 2013, 09:00:00 AM
I thought Gildan Softstyle was a pop video


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on March 31, 2013, 09:45:57 AM
A lot of band t-shirts are Fruit of the Loom which are horrible. One wash and they turn to cardboard. I'm now using Gildan

People wash t-shirts that they wear to gigs???  :o 

At least I don't have the problem.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 31, 2013, 01:39:55 PM
The Big Big Train shirts are very nice, so I gather the Shineback tees will be something like that?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 31, 2013, 02:30:57 PM
It's a modified version of the album cover - the arrows are in solid colours rather than with the patterns. It would have been prohibitively expensive to do anything more flash, though I think the design translates very well into three colours.

Next time I'm near a computer I'll post the design that Brian did for the shirts.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on March 31, 2013, 09:25:35 PM
Link to The Merch Desk page for Shineback (http://themerchdesk.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=136_147).

Pre-orders open tomorrow.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on March 31, 2013, 09:37:13 PM
A lot of band t-shirts are Fruit of the Loom which are horrible. One wash and they turn to cardboard. I'm now using Gildan Softstyle which, as the name suggests, stays soft. They only go up to 2XL so the larger sizes have to be in the "heavy" weight.
I do try to listen to what people want  :)

Well, that sounds lovely. Thank you!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 31, 2013, 09:41:36 PM
Link to The Merch Desk page for Shineback (http://themerchdesk.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=136_147).

Pre-orders open tomorrow.

Get in quick at midnight.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: benb on March 31, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
I got in quick & my order for the bundle is in 8)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 31, 2013, 11:09:18 PM
That is excellent, Ben  :)

I have also put in my order.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: benb on March 31, 2013, 11:09:46 PM
Nightshift has it's benefits at last ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 31, 2013, 11:16:43 PM
Haha, nice work, Ben.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on March 31, 2013, 11:19:50 PM
There's an interesting mark-down on the bundle...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on March 31, 2013, 11:21:02 PM
There's an interesting mark-down on the bundle...

Yeah I just PM'd Nellie about that...  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on March 31, 2013, 11:24:15 PM
You lot should be grateful for markdowns like that  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on March 31, 2013, 11:29:29 PM
considering the exchange rate, I was very glad!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 01, 2013, 07:05:53 AM
Yeah I just PM'd Nellie about that...  ;D
Nellie didn't set the prices...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 01, 2013, 07:11:37 AM
If you've pre-ordered then you can claim your exclusive bonus track by sending an email to downloads@badelephant.co.uk showing your order number. You'll then get a code (in a couple of days or so) for the download.

The song, I Have Good Days, I Have Bad Days, is an alternative ending for the album, recorded at the same time.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Espen on April 01, 2013, 07:22:23 AM
The song, I Have Good Days, I Have Bad Days, is an alternative ending for the album, recorded at the same time.
There's two of him now?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 01, 2013, 08:29:49 AM
There always were. But the tablets are helping a lot.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on April 01, 2013, 09:18:33 AM
Shineback bundle ordered.
Now sit back and wait....


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on April 01, 2013, 09:21:05 AM
The price wibble was to do with (Racing Hippo) also having to change all the listing to account for VAT. It's all fixed now!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 01, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
Shineback bundle ordered.
Now sit back and wait....

I'm still waiting.

I'm actually not sure if this is a April Fool.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 01, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
Everyone has to pre-order before midday to find out...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on April 01, 2013, 10:36:56 AM
I thought I'd better check back, and yes, Wilf did definitely put 2013 in his notice.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 01, 2013, 11:02:06 AM
If anyone mentions April Fools here again, I will castrate them.

If you pre-order the album, I'll let you off.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 01, 2013, 11:06:47 AM
The price wibble was to do with (Racing Hippo) also having to change all the listing to account for VAT. It's all fixed now!
Cheers, Nellie :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 01, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
If anyone mentions April Fools here again, I will castrate them.

If you pre-order the album, I'll let you off.  ;)

Of course, they wouldn't after midday anyway.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 01, 2013, 11:57:41 AM
I just pre-ordered. So I'm pretty much as sad as James, which is nice.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 01, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
If anyone mentions April Fools here again, I will castrate them.

If you pre-order the album, I'll let you off.  ;)

You'd better sew mine back on again then as I pre-ordered when I woke up stupidly early this morning.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on April 01, 2013, 12:41:06 PM
Pre-ordered  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on April 01, 2013, 02:45:07 PM
ShineBund++


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Neville1308 on April 01, 2013, 03:37:10 PM
Preordered.  :)

I've also mangled some Spanish about it on FB.  :-\



Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 01, 2013, 03:57:45 PM
Viva El Simon !


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on April 01, 2013, 06:07:23 PM
are you all millionaires yet?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 01, 2013, 06:22:52 PM
This time next year...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 01, 2013, 06:26:09 PM
Define the context of being a "millionaire".


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 01, 2013, 06:33:07 PM
are you all millionaires yet?
No, just "annoying elephants", Ms. Ashley ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on April 01, 2013, 08:30:54 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on April 01, 2013, 09:25:03 PM
I have also pre-ordered.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on April 01, 2013, 09:58:17 PM
I have also pre-ordered.
You lot are mad! I notice Simon hasn't pre-ordered yet :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 01, 2013, 10:19:15 PM
Well, that's 50% of a sale after costs that he won't be seeing  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on April 01, 2013, 10:31:16 PM
Pre-order? Ohh.... I thought they said "free hors d'oeuvres." Alas, I shall have to wait a couple of weeks til I get paid then.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 01, 2013, 10:40:14 PM
The hors d'oeuvres will have gone off by then.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 01, 2013, 11:20:10 PM
Sh*t, do I have to pre-order, as well?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 02, 2013, 07:15:40 AM
Nah - you've heard it once - that'll be enough won't it?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 02, 2013, 07:35:43 AM
I am not sure anyone has actually heard it once yet...maybe Simon...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on April 02, 2013, 08:11:07 AM
There's plenty of time to pre-order!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 02, 2013, 08:11:23 AM
I heard the totally finished, mastered product yesterday.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on April 02, 2013, 08:59:28 AM
Have I pre-oredered something good then?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 02, 2013, 09:08:54 AM
The tshirt looks nice.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on April 02, 2013, 09:10:10 AM
Oh goody.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 02, 2013, 09:21:50 AM
Have I pre-oredered something good then?
You've preordered something outstanding, Bryan. Its a very powerful album, it sounds great, and it has real crossover appeal. The challenge for James and I is to get this out to as many people as possible, including outside the prog world.

(And the T-shirts do look nice)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on April 02, 2013, 11:05:18 AM
Just sent a bit of animation to Simon, Wilf and Mouse.  Sorry James I don't seem to have an email address if you'd like to see it PM me


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Espen on April 04, 2013, 02:06:33 PM
Pre-ordered. :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 04, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
Yay !


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 04, 2013, 03:47:06 PM
I know that the news is out on Twatter and Arsebook, but I haven't seen anything on any other forum.  Is there a plan to spam the world?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 04, 2013, 03:49:02 PM
Yes, a cunning plan is being finalised at the moment.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 04, 2013, 05:58:28 PM
I've got a thread going on the Frost* forum which gets updated with every, er, update.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 04, 2013, 06:31:02 PM
Which forums are worth posting on?  There are several that are dead.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 04, 2013, 07:47:30 PM
The alive ones are best...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on April 04, 2013, 09:21:15 PM
This forum and the Frost* forum are the only ones I go on these days


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 04, 2013, 09:36:14 PM
I think Facebook groups are where it's at nowadays.

Angry, angry Facebook groups...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on April 04, 2013, 10:48:37 PM
I think Facebook groups are where it's at nowadays.

Angry, angry Facebook groups...

Haha- the BBT one is such good fun...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 05, 2013, 06:21:55 AM
It should be posted on PE.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 05, 2013, 12:52:05 PM
Because it sounds exactly like Yes.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 05, 2013, 12:54:40 PM
That's what we should tell them.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 05, 2013, 01:03:54 PM
With more slippers and ducks.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 05, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
It does sound like Yes, in a couple of places. Maybe around 30 seconds worth of pure Yes-like goodness.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 05, 2013, 01:30:01 PM
I believe that Simon has the same notes as Yes - except I'd expect that they're put together in a better order.  And the lyrics will be meaningful.  As the singer won't sound like he was castrated.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 05, 2013, 01:41:34 PM
Although the threat of such may have been the reason the album was finally finished...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 05, 2013, 02:03:58 PM
And you didn't carry it out?

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5Qh5BJ4OX6s/S45YGIxAQkI/AAAAAAAAAW8/WjcQ9BpaLxY/daybreakers_i_am_disappoint.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on April 05, 2013, 02:05:30 PM
"And now a sketch set in a ball-bearing factory, where I play a man who loses his bearings"

"And I play a man who loses the will to live"


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 05, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5Qh5BJ4OX6s/S45YGIxAQkI/AAAAAAAAAW8/WjcQ9BpaLxY/daybreakers_i_am_disappoint.jpg)

Looks like Simon Cowell has forgotten to take his magic potion.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 05, 2013, 03:18:11 PM
Someone is going to be very disappointed, and unless they have looked elsewhere, is going to go very, very wrong...

I got a hit on my Shineback blog from the search 'what is required for new album music listening session'  :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 05, 2013, 03:29:36 PM
 ;D  There is one important detail they will learn - have cake!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 05, 2013, 04:46:45 PM
And the lyrics will be meaningful.
Er, about that...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 05, 2013, 04:49:29 PM
I know that the news is out on Twatter and Arsebook, but I haven't seen anything on any other forum.  Is there a plan to spam the world?
James is our Director of Marketing. It's official.

Me: you're Director of Marketing
James: oh, all right then


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 06, 2013, 12:18:37 AM
I was looking the wrong way at the time.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 06, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
I got a clock through from Neville Jobson  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 06, 2013, 05:14:44 PM
James' e-mail address is spambot@bem.com isn't it?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on April 06, 2013, 06:18:29 PM
And the lyrics will be meaningful.
Er, about that...

Elliott, you're fired!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 06, 2013, 09:34:53 PM
Elliott, you're fired!
I think you'll find that difficult.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 06, 2013, 09:56:01 PM
"Challenge accepted!"


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 06, 2013, 10:01:04 PM
You're all wasting your time. The only way to get rid of me would be for James to buy me out. You couldn't afford that, as I'd want double my share capital to resign.

(So that's £2)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 06, 2013, 10:02:30 PM
Damn.

And the government says I'm only allowed to live on £1.25 a month.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Neville1308 on April 07, 2013, 08:14:58 AM
I got a clock through from Neville Jobson  ;D

 ;D  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 09, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
There may well be activity on skype...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 09, 2013, 06:57:17 PM
I'm amazed you know about Skype, let alone how to use it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 09, 2013, 07:07:33 PM
 8)

 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: hoboslobo on April 09, 2013, 07:44:29 PM
Yesterday I was a BEM slave.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528418_10151559741700295_228169015_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 09, 2013, 07:46:26 PM
How does it feel, Bo?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 09, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
Yesterday I was a BEM slave.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528418_10151559741700295_228169015_n.jpg)

This is wasted at the end of the previous page  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on April 09, 2013, 08:06:53 PM
This slave was just out of shot ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: hoboslobo on April 09, 2013, 08:13:48 PM
That is where they like to keep us. Out of sight. Not to be seen or heard.

Fight the man!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on April 09, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
I'm afraid I was actually in the room next door.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 09, 2013, 08:23:43 PM
I was in a different postcode.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 09, 2013, 09:26:11 PM
I was unaware!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 09, 2013, 09:29:51 PM
That is where they like to keep us. Out of sight. Not to be seen or heard.

Fight the man!
Resistance is futile.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 07:51:01 PM
DUCK ! (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2035)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
66 views and 3 clicks through to The Merch Desk so far.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on April 10, 2013, 08:49:12 PM
1 view was me and I've already pre-ordered so didn't need to click through :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 08:51:24 PM
4 click-throughs now  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 10, 2013, 09:01:42 PM
I clicked, but didn't pre-order because I helped to make the damn thing.  :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 09:06:33 PM
I pre-ordered and I paid for the damned thing  :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 09:09:53 PM
I killed the server.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 10, 2013, 09:11:10 PM
Miss him... Miss him...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 09:19:08 PM
And we're back  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 09:27:24 PM
107 views and 6 clicks through to The Merch Desk.

Just wait til we put up something with worthwhile content  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 09:50:48 PM
115 views and 8 clicks through to The Merch Desk.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 09:53:59 PM
Interesting mix of countries on my blog today :

United Kingdom, United States, Slovenia, Netherlands, Argentina, Norway, Israel, Belgium, France, Serbia and Sweden.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 10, 2013, 10:32:37 PM
Canada have joined in too.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on April 10, 2013, 11:16:50 PM
I can spell Canada. It's C, eh...

I'll get me coat.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 11, 2013, 06:24:43 AM
165 views and 13 clicks through to The Merch Desk.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 11, 2013, 06:27:43 AM
I'm pleased to see that the BEM Marketing Department has kicked into high gear.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 11, 2013, 06:59:13 AM
Ah...this is still low gear.  This is Catherine driving along...

We will become a lot more annoying than this  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on April 11, 2013, 08:45:10 AM
Go and annoy somebody else. I think we've all pre-ordered by now.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 11, 2013, 09:27:34 AM
All 253 of you ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 11, 2013, 10:00:32 AM
All one of me has.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 11, 2013, 10:02:14 AM
Just the one, Mrs Wembley ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 11, 2013, 10:11:39 AM
Sales are on the up then.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 11, 2013, 11:03:58 AM
I've pre-ordered twice.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 11, 2013, 11:09:36 AM
RobH is our kinda guy  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 11, 2013, 01:22:10 PM
165 views and 13 clicks through to The Merch Desk.

Shouldn't these be in The Count?

(too?)  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 11, 2013, 06:15:48 PM
Interesting mix of countries on my blog today :

United Kingdom, United States, Slovenia, Netherlands, Argentina, Norway, Israel, Belgium, France, Serbia and Sweden.

Add in Ukraine, Australia, Ireland, Brazil, Finland and Germany, together with Canada from yesterday.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 11, 2013, 08:55:54 PM
Some real Shineback news to combat James' wittering on about his blog.

I now have the Master CD for Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed...look, here it is...

(http://www.starjump.org/files/riseup2.jpg)

Isn't it nice?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 11, 2013, 08:56:23 PM
It's the wrong way round.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 11, 2013, 08:58:51 PM
Looks fine on Tapatalk...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 11, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
Better?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 11, 2013, 09:22:21 PM
September 4th?  Has it been put off again?




;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on April 11, 2013, 09:29:37 PM
It's the wrong way round.

Did I tell you about how I got my current job because my predecessor was responsible for burning some critical data onto CDs and she managed to do so and then stick the labels ON THE WRONG SIDE and ship them off to the national health authorities of Europe?

I did? Ok then...  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 11, 2013, 09:51:06 PM
It's the wrong way round.

Did I tell you about how I got my current job because my predecessor was responsible for burning some critical data onto CDs and she managed to do so and then stick the labels ON THE WRONG SIDE and ship them off to the national health authorities of Europe?

I did? Ok then...  ;D

Bwahahahahahahahaha!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 11, 2013, 09:51:33 PM
Better?

Well, it's not worse.

September 4th?  Has it been put off again?




;D

Quiet you.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 11, 2013, 10:07:46 PM
202 views and 15 clicks through to The Merch Desk.

Now I have to work out how to embed a video of one of the tracks into a blog...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 11, 2013, 10:11:21 PM
I'll look forward to that around Christmas, then...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 12, 2013, 10:09:43 AM
202 views and 15 clicks through to The Merch Desk.

Now I have to work out how to embed a video of one of the tracks into a blog...
Just copy and paste the URL.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 12, 2013, 10:10:18 AM
September 4th?  Has it been put off again?
Only the US release.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on April 12, 2013, 10:20:12 AM
202 views and 15 clicks through to The Merch Desk.

Now I have to work out how to embed a video of one of the tracks into a blog...
Just copy and paste the URL.

"If you see the ghost, you will tell me, won't you children?"

"IT'S BEHIND YOU!!!"

<turns round very slowly>"Where?"

"IT'S BEHIND YOU!!!"


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Bert on April 12, 2013, 11:47:57 AM
202 views and 15 clicks through to The Merch Desk.

Now I have to work out how to embed a video of one of the tracks into a blog...
Just copy and paste the URL.

You do realise you will need to explain 2 words and one acronym there, don't you ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on April 12, 2013, 11:57:04 AM
Did I tell you about how I got my current job because my predecessor was responsible for burning some critical data onto CDs and she managed to do so and then stick the labels ON THE WRONG SIDE and ship them off to the national health authorities of Europe?

I did? Ok then...  ;D
So this was a case where the wrong side was also the write side.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 12, 2013, 12:14:43 PM
September 4th?  Has it been put off again?
Only the US release.

heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on April 13, 2013, 01:03:17 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on April 13, 2013, 01:11:41 PM
I'm writing content for the Shineback website. Today it is detailed track by track notes for the album:

I'll post as few excerpts here:

May You Live In Interesting Times (Blog #1)
When I first spoke to Robert about creating a story concerning a fictional woman who effectively blogs from her dreams, the first thing out of his mouth was; ‘Well you’ll need to write a song about falling asleep first’. He had a point but this was easier said than done. How on earth do you create a song about falling unconscious that doesn’t end in snoring and drool? This was my initial and to be honest, best attempt (there are some other versions floating around on my hard disk) at kicking the story off. For some reason it reminds me of Echolyn but maybe that’s because I’d been listening to a lot to their album Mei at the time.

This is the moment of Dora’s first blog entry she sets her camera down beside her bed and begins the experiment which will expose her to the deepest, darkest parts of both her memory and subconscious.

All the blog entries are sung by the inimitable Danny Claire and are supposedly delivered directly at the imaginary camera she takes with her. The rest is sung by yours truly posing as her inner thoughts, the Envoys (a trio of beings who are effectively the curators of her unconscious) or the character Dominic. The only other significant presence is Dora’s abusive real life father who is played (incredibly well I think) by Tinyfish bass player Paul Worwood during the track Xo Va Yu.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on April 13, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
Thank you BEM for sending me a download code for I have good days, I have bad days.

Listening to it now


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 13, 2013, 06:23:37 PM
Let's see if you are still thanking us in 5 minutes...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on April 13, 2013, 06:30:28 PM
Thank You  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 13, 2013, 06:37:04 PM
(http://attachments.techguy.org/attachments/204940d1329604080/woohoo.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 13, 2013, 06:50:55 PM
Found mine in my spam folder...  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 13, 2013, 06:54:46 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on April 13, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
Mine didn't work when I clicked on it :-(


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 13, 2013, 07:13:05 PM
Have you tried turning it off and on again ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 13, 2013, 07:17:28 PM
Listening now.


likey.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on April 13, 2013, 07:37:07 PM
I am just listening now.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 13, 2013, 07:48:01 PM
Don't forget to tell all your friends  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 13, 2013, 07:49:17 PM
I've had it on loop for the last 20 minutes.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 13, 2013, 07:53:04 PM
If you turn it off at the mains it will stop.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 13, 2013, 07:54:50 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 13, 2013, 08:05:28 PM
Ooh, it is good, isn't it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on April 13, 2013, 08:14:06 PM
I can't listen to it because I'm in Southampton waiting for Enochian Theory to start. What I want to know however is why do I just read most emails normally but that one went through my brain as if David was reading it out to me. Very strange.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 13, 2013, 08:42:54 PM
I've downloaded but I'm not listening until I've heard the whole album


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on April 13, 2013, 09:21:43 PM
I've downloaded but I'm not listening until I've heard the whole album

This track's not on the album though...? I'm normally with you but I made an exception for this one... :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 13, 2013, 10:10:46 PM
Think of it as an exclusive download single.

It'll never appear on an album, or indeed anywhere else legal...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 13, 2013, 10:22:39 PM
We cannot guarantee the same about Simon's underpants.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Dawn on April 13, 2013, 11:52:31 PM
We cannot guarantee the same about Simon's underpants.

I better only get a CD and a t-shirt...I did not order Simon's underpants.........


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 14, 2013, 02:19:29 AM
Heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Espen on April 14, 2013, 08:23:26 PM
Likey!  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 14, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Now go and tell all your friends  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Dawn on April 15, 2013, 01:38:35 AM
Now go and tell all your friends  ;D

Friends?  What are those?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on April 15, 2013, 05:55:39 AM
yeah if I had those I wouldn't be posting here


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on April 15, 2013, 11:07:22 AM
I wouldn't mind hearing some of it  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 15, 2013, 12:21:45 PM
If you pre-order then you get a free download track once we receive your email.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 15, 2013, 01:33:59 PM
2 out of 2 cats say they love it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 15, 2013, 02:21:36 PM
Lovely, innit?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Andy R on April 15, 2013, 02:38:45 PM
I want to register a complaint!

You sent the link for the bonus download during the Marillion Weekend. Surely you must have known that some of us would have to leave it sitting in our inbox until we could download it at home!!!  :P 8)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on April 15, 2013, 02:41:09 PM
Surely, you'd already heard the Marillion songs before?  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on April 15, 2013, 02:57:53 PM
Surely, you'd already heard the Marillion songs before?  ;)

Are you JamesA in disguise?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 15, 2013, 03:01:49 PM
I want to register a complaint!

You sent the link for the bonus download during the Marillion Weekend. Surely you must have known that some of us would have to leave it sitting in our inbox until we could download it at home!!!  :P 8)

You were meant to tell the band to quieten down and play it to the assembled masses.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 15, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
I was talking to a chap in a Frost* Derby DVD shoot shirt on Saturday night and informed him of Shineback and where to go to pre-order it.  8)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on April 15, 2013, 04:07:30 PM
Is/Was he a member of the Frost* forum? Anyone we know?

And furthermore, I find I like to say shoot shirt.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 15, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
No idea. Whoops. Me and Fogey did start prodding at the printed names on the back going "There I am!", so maybe it's best he didn't find out who we were.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 15, 2013, 05:45:48 PM
I want to register a complaint!

You sent the link for the bonus download during the Marillion Weekend. Surely you must have known that some of us would have to leave it sitting in our inbox until we could download it at home!!!  :P 8)
Your complaint is duly noted - our Customer Service Advisors will contact you shortly...

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/16/7ysata3y.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Andy R on April 15, 2013, 06:27:49 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 15, 2013, 10:18:39 PM
http://www.badelephant.co.uk/


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 15, 2013, 10:26:24 PM
Is that where we can get Dec Burke pre-orders ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Espen on April 16, 2013, 12:24:30 AM
I'm still wondering.. what did the elephant do, really?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 16, 2013, 06:17:55 AM
You really don't want to know, Espen. The knowledge haunts me still.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 16, 2013, 09:21:39 AM
It forgot.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on April 16, 2013, 12:08:12 PM
I've said this elsewhere i.e. arsebook; this isnt a throwaway extra, I think it's one of the best things I've written.

It's a lot less 'in your face' than the majority of the material on the Shineback album but it employs a lot of sounds and techniques that I intend to use a lot more in the future. If effect, you are getting a taste of what is to come with regards the kind of things I'll be exploring with future projects.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on April 17, 2013, 08:52:57 AM
I've said this elsewhere i.e. arsebook; this isnt a throwaway extra, I think it's one of the best things I've written.

It's a lot less 'in your face' than the majority of the material on the Shineback album but it employs a lot of sounds and techniques that I intend to use a lot more in the future. If effect, you are getting a taste of what is to come with regards the kind of things I'll be exploring with future projects.
Which means he's found the animal noise samples on his keyboard.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 17, 2013, 09:09:53 AM
Good - there is not enough zedonk in modern music.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 17, 2013, 07:02:24 PM
More Shineback ! (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2096)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 17, 2013, 07:16:11 PM
Spammer!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 17, 2013, 07:26:42 PM
 ;D

It's essential information.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 17, 2013, 07:53:16 PM
;D

It's essential information.

Not when you're dissing me, it isn't. Have I ever been less than supportive of BEM?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 17, 2013, 07:58:34 PM
No, you have always been a sweetie  :-*

I will mention you in a more favourable light in the next update, to be entitled Catherine Told Me Off For The Last One  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: benb on April 17, 2013, 09:27:47 PM
I'm still wondering.. what did the elephant do, really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Cj2TtFd_E

Footage of the Elephant in younger days going rogue  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 17, 2013, 09:43:48 PM
No, you have always been a sweetie  :-*

Now I'm worried.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 18, 2013, 05:21:54 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 24, 2013, 08:01:27 PM
Here's another update (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2193)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 24, 2013, 08:37:31 PM
No, you have always been a sweetie  :-*

I will mention you in a more favourable light in the next update, to be entitled Catherine Told Me Off For The Last One  ;)

Still waiting...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 24, 2013, 08:52:41 PM
There was just too much news...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 25, 2013, 08:41:30 AM
 :(


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 25, 2013, 10:09:02 AM
I have already written you into next week's...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 25, 2013, 10:37:15 AM
I'm a woman ahead of my time  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 25, 2013, 10:50:10 AM
You have a clock in your hat?  :o

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zeeuoLbXIB8/UAh6K-pxKQI/AAAAAAAAANs/MPePMPCXIHA/s1600/clock+hat.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on April 25, 2013, 03:57:52 PM
I bumped into Neil Palfreyman at the Magenta gig.  I told him that the executives of BEM have a book of names that have not pre-ordered the album.  Neil, knowing the people concerned got very defensive and pointed out that he could just pop round to Nellie's and buy it then.

He did ask me if I'd heard it, to which I replied that only the suits had heard it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 25, 2013, 04:04:57 PM
I had noticed Neil was not on the list, and never had any doubt that he would buy it.

With a bit of luck we might be releasing some of the music soonish as a taster.

Am I allowed to say that ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 25, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
I wouldn't have thought so.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 25, 2013, 05:27:40 PM
No.

And if Neil doesn't pre-order, he won't get the bonus track. It won't be released later on, you know...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 25, 2013, 06:00:39 PM
Don't want spoilers. Have dowloaded the bonus track but won't play it until after the main album. I know I'll hear some sort of version of something at Celebr8, but that's different (to me it is anyway).


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 25, 2013, 06:28:05 PM
Probably will be different as I doubt Simon has learnt any of it yet...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 25, 2013, 07:46:50 PM
He's just going to waddle on stage and quack for 30 minutes, isn't he? I thought that was the plan.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 25, 2013, 08:13:21 PM
Only if he has rehearsed it fully...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 26, 2013, 03:45:46 PM
With a bit of luck we might be releasing some of the music soonish as a taster.

Am I allowed to say that ?
There will be two things - another teaser, which our young, talented Production Executive is working on at the moment, and a free download single, Passengers, which will be released on 6th May.

Another track from the album, Fears Aren't Toys, featuring the smooth guitar stylings of Mr. Dec Burke, will be available in a manner which I'm not sure I should be discussing quite yet ;)

Also, Gonzo has an exclusive to play on his six-hour extravaganza.

So by the time it's released you'll have had the chance to hear what is effectively three 'singles', just like in the old days.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 26, 2013, 10:39:59 PM
Shan't. I'll buy them on CD if you sell them like that though (with nice artwork).

I'll still not listen to those before the album though.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 26, 2013, 10:46:26 PM
The free download might have some nice artwork by yours truly, hence it being free.  :P


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 26, 2013, 10:47:28 PM
I will listen to everything you will let me listen to. as soon as you let me.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 26, 2013, 10:48:49 PM
Well, this teaser might be done sooner than I expected...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 26, 2013, 10:50:46 PM
you tease.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on April 27, 2013, 07:05:04 PM
Ooo! I get to play an exclusive track?! I hope I remember!  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 27, 2013, 09:37:38 PM
Have you listened to it yet? Do you still want to play a track after that? ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 27, 2013, 10:07:55 PM
More duck calls !


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on April 28, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
I have listened to it, and it's possibly my favorite song on the album. I especially like the duck calls. They make the track, really.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on April 28, 2013, 10:55:45 PM
Are we allowed to have listened to it yet? ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on April 29, 2013, 05:57:59 AM
Depends - you are if you like it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 29, 2013, 08:33:36 AM
I want to hear the quacking  :'(


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 29, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
Quack.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on April 29, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
I said I wanted to HEAR the quacking, not read it.  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on April 29, 2013, 10:10:22 AM
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Duck_Sounds_audio


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 29, 2013, 10:13:45 AM
I said I wanted to HEAR the quacking, not read it.  ::)
When did the voices in your head disappear ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on April 29, 2013, 12:53:27 PM
It might be worth starting up a weekly podcast or music blog of high quality and varied audience just to get to hear these albums in advance.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 29, 2013, 01:19:31 PM
And before you ask, no, cooking blogs do not count  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on April 29, 2013, 01:20:14 PM
music blog of high quality and varied audience just to get to hear these albums in advance.
I've not received a copy in advance, though...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: benb on April 29, 2013, 03:22:32 PM
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Duck_Sounds_audio

Does it contain a cover of Quack My Bitch Up? ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on April 29, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 01, 2013, 07:22:48 PM
It's another Bad Elephant update (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2233)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on May 01, 2013, 08:38:54 PM
Quack your Elephant up?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 01, 2013, 09:13:00 PM
It might be worth starting up a weekly podcast or music blog of high quality and varied audience just to get to hear these albums in advance.
Off you go, then :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on May 02, 2013, 06:17:25 AM
If anyone spots this high quality blog, can they send me a link to it?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 02, 2013, 08:13:26 AM
I'll have a look around for you.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 02, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
It might be worth starting up a weekly podcast or music blog of high quality and varied audience just to get to hear these albums in advance.
Off you go, then :)

I don't have to. I make the albums.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on May 02, 2013, 06:10:59 PM
Mine has turned up thanks to the coruscating efficiency of Nellie :D

I shall open it once I've finished eating fish and chips and washed my hands...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 02, 2013, 06:14:00 PM
Mine has turned up thanks to the coruscating efficiency of Nellie :D
It sounds much as it did last time you heard it :)

Brian Mitchell is a genius.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on May 02, 2013, 06:43:30 PM
I make the albums.

Mouse's new t-shirt slogan.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 02, 2013, 08:44:11 PM
Brian Mitchell is a genius.

He had help.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 02, 2013, 08:44:30 PM
I make the albums.

Mouse's new t-shirt slogan.

This. Yes, please.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 02, 2013, 08:44:59 PM
TEASER TRAILER! (https://soundcloud.com/badelephant/rise-up-forgotten-return)

Spread the word, peeps!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on May 02, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
TEASER TRAILER! (https://soundcloud.com/badelephant/rise-up-forgotten-return)

Spread the word, peeps!

That sounds GREAT!

 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 02, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
It should be pointed out that this teaser was edited by our very talented Production Executive, Tim Lawrie. He also selected the segments to be included and did the farting overdubs and everything.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on May 03, 2013, 12:21:28 AM
damn, damn, damn.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 05, 2013, 10:08:37 PM
Free single download, anyone?

http://badelephant.bandcamp.com/

Go get! Spread the word!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Espen on May 05, 2013, 10:27:19 PM
 :o
Damn..


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on May 05, 2013, 11:30:51 PM
holy hell, man.

I don't think I'll be able to contain myself when this album comes out.


seriously.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 05, 2013, 11:34:43 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on May 06, 2013, 09:20:33 PM
http://bit.ly/YANgT0

THIS is the news.

(And also what I made of the entire Shineback album that I was lucky enough to be allowed to hear...)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on May 06, 2013, 11:06:38 PM
heh


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 06, 2013, 11:24:16 PM
Wot Rog said.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: gr8gonzo on May 07, 2013, 12:16:29 AM
I'll have to come back to it. I saw the picture of Danny and suddenly lost all interest in anything that followed.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 07, 2013, 07:05:04 AM
(And also what I made of the entire Shineback album that I was lucky enough to be allowed to hear...)
See? "Lucky".

I've always liked you, James.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on May 07, 2013, 09:26:47 AM
I really like your reviews :D

SG: And... and... I could call up my Tinyfish bandmate Rob Ramsay to work on the story and lyrics, and we could make it into a concept album about child abuse!

GF: You two are quite strange people, aren't you?

SG: Sorry.

Also amused at you using the photo of me, entertaining the Invisible Woman.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on May 07, 2013, 11:56:47 AM
I am very concerned about the workings of JamesHs mind. 


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on May 07, 2013, 12:26:57 PM
I am very concerned about the workings of JamesHs mind. 

Aren't we all?  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on May 07, 2013, 01:04:29 PM
Do not gaze into the abyss, for the abyss gazes also into you :-)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on May 07, 2013, 01:24:53 PM
I am very concerned about the workings of JamesHs mind. 

I thought he fitted in quite well with some of the other folk around here.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 07, 2013, 01:31:04 PM
Yes.  Like Catherine.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on May 07, 2013, 01:38:53 PM
Do not gaze into the abyss, for the abyss gazes also into you :-)

(http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/the_abyss.jpg)

We've got to look with better eyes than that.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on May 07, 2013, 04:12:12 PM
Actually I did think it was a Russian water tentacle. Sorry.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on May 07, 2013, 07:45:29 PM
Yes.  Like Catherine.

Catherine is too busy being upset that the rest of the Fishtank is getting to hear Shineback before she does.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on May 07, 2013, 07:52:00 PM
I have not heard it either.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 07, 2013, 07:56:20 PM
Some would question whether James_H actually has...

Anyway, that's his review spammed all over the book of face  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on May 07, 2013, 11:06:39 PM
Some would question whether James_H actually has...

Anyway, that's his review spammed all over the book of face  ;D

Oi!

And, thanks. ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on May 07, 2013, 11:44:24 PM
I have not heard it either.

me, either.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Simon on May 08, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
I'm about to have a natter with Nick Shilton at CRPP. OOh an international call about an album I'm releasing through a proper record label! My 21 year old self would have soiled his undies!  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 08, 2013, 07:25:03 PM
an international call about an album I'm releasing through a proper record label!

Which album is that then ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 08, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
It's the All-star Mr & Mrs BEM special ! (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2325)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 08, 2013, 08:12:39 PM
And thanks to Mr James Hendry we now have Bad Elephant Music being spammed all over the book of face by Mr Robert Fripp.

 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 08, 2013, 09:10:19 PM
I'm about to have a natter with Nick Shilton at CRPP. OOh an international call about an album I'm releasing through a proper record label! My 21 year old self would have soiled his undies!  ;D
He's had the album for a while, so don't take any rubbish about him not having heard it ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 09, 2013, 08:22:13 AM
Yay !  People are clicking on links - some went through to the free download single, some to The Merch Desk, and one to the gigingforever review  ;D

Out of interest, how many views has the review had so far ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on May 09, 2013, 08:36:32 AM
Yay !  People are clicking on links - some went through to the free download single, some to The Merch Desk, and one to the gigingforever review  ;D

Out of interest, how many views has the review had so far ?

Ha, don't you know that's a very rude thing to ask a blogger?  ;)

We're just about at 200 now, which is pretty good. That's over 100 more than M83, or Syd Arthur, or the CRS Awards...  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on May 09, 2013, 08:36:40 AM
I'm about to have a natter with Nick Shilton at CRPP. OOh an international call about an album I'm releasing through a proper record label! My 21 year old self would have soiled his undies!  ;D

To be fair, your 47 year old self probably would too :D

I will say, this is all getting jolly exciting!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 09, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
Yay !  People are clicking on links - some went through to the free download single, some to The Merch Desk, and one to the gigingforever review  ;D

Out of interest, how many views has the review had so far ?

Ha, don't you know that's a very rude thing to ask a blogger?  ;)

We're just about at 200 now, which is pretty good. That's over 100 more than M83, or Syd Arthur, or the CRS Awards...  ;D

That's excellent  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 09, 2013, 05:15:09 PM
Not that many downloads of the single, but I guess a lot of folk just listen to it stream.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Neville1308 on May 09, 2013, 06:18:23 PM
Not that many downloads of the single

Thanks for the reminder.  Duly downloaded and listening now - sounds gooood :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 09, 2013, 09:32:35 PM
Not that many downloads of the single, but I guess a lot of folk just listen to it stream.

Maybe we should ask them on the Shineback page...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 09, 2013, 09:38:59 PM
There have been 8 click throughs to the single from my blog.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 09, 2013, 09:39:34 PM
Already did.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 09, 2013, 09:41:03 PM
We're up to a few more than since I looked earlier.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on May 12, 2013, 09:31:11 AM
There is a thread on PE now.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 12, 2013, 09:35:25 AM
Oh, dear - we're doomed...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on May 12, 2013, 10:13:26 AM
It was nice to hear it blasting out from the PA immediately after the Frost set!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 13, 2013, 05:24:12 PM
That was a nice surprise. I don't think anyone realised it at the time, though.  :D

It looked like Faultlines went down well in Simon's set, too.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 13, 2013, 06:18:26 PM
Were people seriously asking where they could get the album ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 13, 2013, 06:25:53 PM
That's okay, we just tell them. Nicely ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 13, 2013, 07:10:25 PM
A Prog celeb wants to buy a copy  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on May 13, 2013, 09:26:39 PM
A Prog celeb wants to buy a copy  ;D

No I already pre-ordered.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 13, 2013, 09:46:56 PM
Another one.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 13, 2013, 10:34:45 PM
I gave a flyer with the address for the Passengers download to the lady who won a signed copy of the album. Now she has some warning of what to expect.  :D

I also gave the URL to many other people, of course.  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 13, 2013, 11:15:57 PM
What was the name of the lady who won the signed copy of the album ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 14, 2013, 06:21:20 AM
I gave a flyer with the address for the Passengers download to the lady who won a signed copy of the album. Now she has some warning of what to expect.  :D

I also gave the URL to many other people, of course.  ;)

Good man!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on May 14, 2013, 09:05:51 AM
That was a nice surprise. I don't think anyone realised it at the time, though.  :D

I certainly didn't, and I wrote bits of it...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 14, 2013, 10:15:57 AM
Isn't Elkie from Touchstone totally lovely  :)

She's shared the photo I took of her with the Shineback flyer  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 14, 2013, 01:10:03 PM
Maybe the Shineback and BEM Facebook pages could also share it...?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 14, 2013, 01:16:04 PM
I do have a rogues gallery of Prog celebrity holding Shineback flyers, which I am more than happy for someone to share on the Shineback and BEM pages.

Hasn't Wilf made that your job yet ?

I plan to feature a few in my Celebr8.2 reviews and in my weekly BEM blogs  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 14, 2013, 04:03:12 PM
The latest Japanese spam on the last BEM update is scarily accurate

"An interesting discussion is worth comment. I feel that you need to write more on this topic, it might not be a taboo subject but typically individuals are not sufficient to speak on such topics. To the next. Cheers"


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on May 14, 2013, 05:54:35 PM
I do have a rogues gallery of Prog celebrity holding Shineback flyers, which I am more than happy for someone to share on the Shineback and BEM pages.

Hasn't Wilf made that your job yet ?

I plan to feature a few in my Celebr8.2 reviews and in my weekly BEM blogs  ;D
Just email me the bloody photos - I can't be arsed to trawl through them all on Facebook. .


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 14, 2013, 06:53:27 PM
I will put them in their own folder or something...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 15, 2013, 08:16:36 PM
It's another BEM update (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2501)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on May 15, 2013, 09:27:19 PM
Do they ever stop?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 15, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
Only when we have sold everything.

So, no.

Don't you like them ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 15, 2013, 10:19:09 PM
Do we actually have anything to sell yet? All I've seen is free stuff.

www.badelephant.bandcamp.com


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 15, 2013, 10:32:21 PM
Yes, we are selling the pre-orders.

I thought you got that memo.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on May 15, 2013, 10:34:01 PM
No-one tells me nuthin'.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 15, 2013, 10:45:39 PM
Next you'll be telling me Wilf doesn't invite you to the curry nights either...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 16, 2013, 08:17:28 PM
I just found out about THIS (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2524)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on May 16, 2013, 08:19:13 PM
I just found out about THIS (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2524)

Thanks James will take a listen


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 22, 2013, 07:36:06 PM
It's Monty Python's Flying Circus (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=2589)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on May 26, 2013, 08:22:34 PM
I pity the person who was searching for Count Duckula merch  :D


Title: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 11, 2013, 07:51:03 PM
Courtesy of Mike on visuals and Tim on audio editing we bring you the Shineback teaser trailer extravaganza!
http://youtu.be/y3kg56MtbKE


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on June 11, 2013, 07:59:59 PM
Very nice!!  Great work Mike and Tim!!

(now get that album out!)

;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on June 11, 2013, 08:19:12 PM
Thanks Rog  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 12, 2013, 06:21:47 AM
(now get that album out!)
Less than three weeks...

If you could all see your way to spread the word about the release - point folk at the video, for example - we will be eternally grateful!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on June 12, 2013, 07:23:06 AM
Less than three weeks before??


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 12, 2013, 08:07:59 AM
Less than three weeks before a date two weeks from now.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on June 12, 2013, 08:36:11 AM
I'm glad you cleared that up.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 12, 2013, 09:36:15 AM
Look! (http://tinyurl.com/pfe47jc) Cheers, Prog Mag.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 12, 2013, 10:06:53 AM
Nice one, and great photo.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on June 12, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
Simon needs to go on an 'Acoustic' tour with his guitar and a Beatbox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAHtPqI28CI)ing wiz. Then he could do all the Shineback stuff and not tire Phil out too much.
How Prog would that be?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 12, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Simon plays guitar and sings - all the other sounds are supllied by the duck on mouth beak organ - He is credited as Phil-Harmonica?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on June 12, 2013, 12:55:55 PM
Now I really am going to kill that c**ting duck.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 12, 2013, 01:17:02 PM
Thank goodness they went for the alternative title of Stop The Pigeon.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 12, 2013, 01:27:26 PM
Now I really am going to kill that c**ting duck.

Wasn't that the B Side of Orville's "I Wish I Could Fly"?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: benb on June 13, 2013, 10:55:32 AM
video on my FB page as well


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 13, 2013, 04:39:42 PM
Cheers Ben!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 13, 2013, 10:57:49 PM
I've thrown a few of my original artwork roughs onto Facebook if any of you bound there are interested. I'm sure they'll appear somewhere else for those who deny Zuckerberg.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/970716_10151655751874684_1068785792_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 14, 2013, 07:43:21 AM
Cool beans, Tim - are you okay with me reposting some of these in the run-up to release?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 14, 2013, 10:05:24 AM
They're BEM's images, ain't they?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 14, 2013, 10:06:27 AM
Yes.

(Wilf - we need to have a chat about IPR without Mouse hearing it - quick, to The Count !)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 24, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
Tomorrow (Tuesday) evening, folks....

http://aiiradio.net/
10pm(UK)..11pm(CET)..5pm(EST)..2pm(PST)
'An Evening With Shineback'
Join Simon Godfrey...frontman of UK band Tinyfish... as he chats live, via skype, about his new side project, Shineback... and introduces tracks from their new album, 'Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed'...released July 1st on Bad Elephant Music.
Much silliness is promised...! :-)
Listen live.... http://aiiradio.net/
Join the chat...http://chat.aiiradio.net/


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 25, 2013, 12:12:49 AM
I'll be there, throwing digital abuse and rubble at Simon.  :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on June 25, 2013, 07:10:24 AM
I shall be present also.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 25, 2013, 10:53:07 AM
It would be super if people, you know, outside of BEM would be up for joining us...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on June 25, 2013, 11:48:19 AM
this BEM outsider will not be present, I have the excuse that it is my husbands birthday so I think I am supposed to pay him some attention


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on June 25, 2013, 12:09:23 PM
I will be in Paris but if there's decent wifi reception in my hotel room I will give it a go!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on June 25, 2013, 12:28:56 PM
I won't be in Paris, but I'll see if I can get there!

;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on June 25, 2013, 12:42:43 PM
I'm still tired, if I'm still awake I'll pop in for a short while but as I have to be up for work at 6:25am I won't be staying till midnight


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 25, 2013, 05:33:31 PM
We don't have outsiders at BEM. We want you to feel loved and included. That way we hope you buy many, many BEM albums.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 25, 2013, 05:36:25 PM
By "outside of BEM", I of course mean "people who aren't part of the label". Which, on this forum, is about three people.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on June 25, 2013, 09:03:20 PM
I am here.  I appear to be listening to an advert for soap.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on June 25, 2013, 09:25:00 PM
Simon just said testicles.

This is high-brow stuff.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on June 26, 2013, 06:29:03 AM
the range of emoticons was disturbing


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 26, 2013, 08:56:43 AM
And somewhat sexist as well, featuring as they did mostly naked women.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 26, 2013, 09:04:21 AM
Did they have shiny backs?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 26, 2013, 01:42:56 PM
I suppose the one pi**ing up a wall was also a woman. And the many dancing bananas.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 26, 2013, 01:45:46 PM
Anyway, it was a fun show! Hope everyone liked what they heard.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 26, 2013, 02:10:03 PM
I didn't see the one watering the wall. But I wasn't too struck on the pole dancing woman or the flashing woman.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 26, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
I was chatting with rog about Simon Le Bon.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on June 26, 2013, 09:24:36 PM
it was good.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 26, 2013, 09:29:07 PM
The Good.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on June 26, 2013, 09:33:32 PM
oui, oui.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 27, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Hurrah - returned from the midlands to find the Shineback CD and T Shirt on the doormat.

It may have to wait until tomorrow for full attention - I am dog-tired this afternoon.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 27, 2013, 01:14:06 PM
You may well find that the best listening experience comes while you are asleep.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 27, 2013, 01:41:23 PM
That's kinda what the album's about, anyway.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on June 27, 2013, 02:32:00 PM
We missed a marketing opportunity by not sending out free daggers.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 27, 2013, 02:46:35 PM
THE WEBSITE IS UP! http://www.shineback.org/


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 27, 2013, 02:48:03 PM
The only way is website !


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on June 27, 2013, 03:05:05 PM
My BEM test audience said it was great, but none of them actually said "turn it on" :D

1) It was already turned on, so I didn't need to "turn it on again"
2) As per 1) I didn't need to turn it off, before turning it on again.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on June 27, 2013, 04:03:46 PM
THE WEBSITE IS UP! http://www.shineback.org/

That is very, very well done!  Grats to all!

My only thought as I peruse the blog/lyrics is to have that lovely triangle be a back button to the album listing.



Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 27, 2013, 07:31:13 PM
My only thought right now is I am not sure how I feel about being told I have a small package.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on June 27, 2013, 09:12:07 PM
i will listen tomorrow


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on June 28, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1017332_10151763118226062_101358772_n.jpg)

Took the T-shirt out to see The Orb last night - now to listen to the album.



Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 28, 2013, 09:39:24 AM
My only thought right now is I am not sure how I feel about being told I have a small package.

Surely that shouldn't come as a surprise?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 28, 2013, 12:03:02 PM
If anyone wants to listen to the AiiRadio Shineback special, it can be found here:

http://www.livestream.com/aiiradionet/video?clipId=pla_d6356017-5834-4793-9d76-087cb233f7a9


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on June 28, 2013, 12:52:06 PM
My only thought right now is I am not sure how I feel about being told I have a small package.
It didn't have an exclamation mark after it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 28, 2013, 01:35:35 PM
That's kinda what the album's about, anyway.

Is that a quote from the forthcoming Shineback bonus track, The Hokey Cokey?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 28, 2013, 01:36:22 PM
No.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 28, 2013, 01:36:59 PM
Meanwhile, here's what Crimson Sky's Moray has said about listening to Shineback:

Quote
My ears have just shat themselves.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 28, 2013, 02:09:24 PM
Is that a recommendation ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on June 28, 2013, 02:47:26 PM
Probably saves on the cost of getting them syringed or candled.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 28, 2013, 05:46:33 PM
Here's another Bad Elephant Music (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=3027) update, with a quote from RobH  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: benb on June 28, 2013, 07:55:17 PM
The album is magnificent!
Totally blown away by it.
Faultlines & Crush Culture are 2 hits if you can get them some airplay.
Crush Culture could be a real smash if you could get it played at festivals over the pa.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 28, 2013, 08:05:02 PM
Candy Crush Culture.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on June 30, 2013, 02:43:11 PM
It's a really good album.  My favourite so far is the title track, but I agree that Crush Culture and Faultlines are also excellent songs. 


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on June 30, 2013, 02:56:10 PM
Last chance to blog before the pre-order closes (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=3060)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on June 30, 2013, 03:21:41 PM
Or, if you still haven't ordered and want the bonus track I Have Good Days, I Have Bad Days, then you've got until midnight. Go here (http://themerchdesk.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=136_147)!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on July 01, 2013, 06:16:17 AM
I think he likes it:

http://progarchy.com/2013/06/30/a-shiny-new-addition-to-a-glorious-year-of-prog/ (http://progarchy.com/2013/06/30/a-shiny-new-addition-to-a-glorious-year-of-prog/)



Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 01, 2013, 06:50:44 AM
I think he likes it:

http://progarchy.com/2013/06/30/a-shiny-new-addition-to-a-glorious-year-of-prog/ (http://progarchy.com/2013/06/30/a-shiny-new-addition-to-a-glorious-year-of-prog/)
Not sure Alison is a 'he' :)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 01, 2013, 07:48:24 AM
 :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 01, 2013, 07:55:43 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 01, 2013, 09:27:43 AM
I think he likes it:

http://progarchy.com/2013/06/30/a-shiny-new-addition-to-a-glorious-year-of-prog/ (http://progarchy.com/2013/06/30/a-shiny-new-addition-to-a-glorious-year-of-prog/)
Not sure Alison is a 'he' :)

I am completely sure. No she isn't.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on July 01, 2013, 09:36:12 AM
I think he likes it:

http://progarchy.com/2013/06/30/a-shiny-new-addition-to-a-glorious-year-of-prog/ (http://progarchy.com/2013/06/30/a-shiny-new-addition-to-a-glorious-year-of-prog/)
Not sure Alison is a 'he' :)

My apologies, etc..., I looked for a name but couldn't see who the author was on my screen set-up.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on July 01, 2013, 10:30:02 AM
I still think Trace is a girl


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 01, 2013, 10:32:42 AM
No, Trace is a budgie - it says so on his coat  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 01, 2013, 10:37:23 AM
Maybe a girl budgie...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 01, 2013, 01:10:25 PM
My apologies, etc..., I looked for a name but couldn't see who the author was on my screen set-up.
Alison also wrote a very nice review on DPRP (http://www.dprp.net/reviews/201345.php#shineback).


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Neville1308 on July 02, 2013, 02:45:52 PM
My copy arrived today :) :)  ;D  ;D

(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg634/Nev1308/IMG_2492_zps5e6da491.jpg) (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/Nev1308/media/IMG_2492_zps5e6da491.jpg.html)

Madness, glorious madness

Thought I should check out the web-site as I listened ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on July 02, 2013, 04:17:43 PM
You know, I've wondered why it's Phil The Duck rather than Dill The


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 02, 2013, 04:39:08 PM
Dog

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5163/5327843140_4900a892de.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Neville1308 on July 02, 2013, 04:41:36 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5163/5327843140_4900a892de.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on July 02, 2013, 04:44:10 PM
A very Sage comment if I may say so.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 05, 2013, 12:18:20 PM
"Producer Tim 'Mouse' Lawrie has announced he is to leave Bad Elephant Music after serving as a co-producer for one album.

The 20 something-year-old made the announcement on Twatter saying he wanted to concentrate on promoting his own new album and touring around Hull.  "I've absolutely loved my time with Bad Elephant Music, and I hope everyone saw and knows how passionately I felt about the one album I worked on," he said.

Bad Elephant Music said it would begin the search to replace him for the next album release.

The producer had postponed a major tour earlier this year as he had been unable to finish his album in time for the gigs, due to not waking up before midday.  "I can't wait to promote my new record around Hull and that has to take priority," Mousey T said.  "I shall be keeping a very close eye on Bad Elephant Music, showing my support in every way I can, and really hope that in some way that I can be part of the label."

David Wilf Elliott, BEM CEO, said: "We're so sorry to see Mouse go as he's been an exceptional co-producer on - and advocate for - the new album, but we totally support his decision to bugger off now that he's not being forced to wake up in the morning.  We are going to say that we very much hope that Mouse will remain part of the label and come back and perform for us on the next album, but in reality he is dead to us now.  In the meantime, we will now start the search for a new minion."

Audience ratings for the second album planned by BEM failed to match those of the first album last week.  The label was also criticised after the first album from Shineback sold less than 1 copy during its first week on sale.  Last month saw TFATD crowned winner in the lucky dip to choose a band to release the second album for the label."


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on July 05, 2013, 01:00:35 PM
Ok, I'll bite, which actual news story did you rip that off from?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 05, 2013, 01:04:15 PM
The absolutely gutting news that Jessie J is leaving The Voice  :'(


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 05, 2013, 01:25:38 PM
Jessie J and The Voice - two things I am aware of without really knowing what they are or what they are for.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 05, 2013, 01:25:56 PM
The absolutely gutting news that Jessie J is leaving The Voice  :'(

The thoughtless cow! How can she even do that?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 05, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
Her contract only demands her soul - she has obcviously realised that she can quite happily exist in the music business without it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 05, 2013, 01:47:39 PM
The absolutely gutting news that Jessie J is leaving The Voice  :'(

The thoughtless cow! How can she even do that?

I am seriously worried because the other coaches have previously said they would only do another series if all of them stayed working together...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on July 05, 2013, 02:14:02 PM
I thought I got fired from BEM for something totally different?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 05, 2013, 02:19:37 PM
Doing something unspeakable to Simon's toothbrush?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 05, 2013, 02:29:46 PM
Doing something.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on July 05, 2013, 02:48:03 PM
Doing something.

Can't have that now, can we?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 05, 2013, 03:40:59 PM
I don't need reasons to fire you, Tim. Capriciousness is an essential part of what's making BEM such a huge success.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 05, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
That, and a dictionary.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on July 05, 2013, 03:45:12 PM
I thought it was because of this?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN9MC0yCcAA-LRz.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 05, 2013, 03:53:00 PM
You've still got the faces the wrong way round  ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 06, 2013, 08:04:16 AM
Ai Caramba.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on July 06, 2013, 12:58:43 PM
The album has charted over on Amazon.com's MP3 realm.

No. 4 in new progressive releases.

No. 17 overall in progressive.

No. 7 in new dance pop releases.

No. 32 overall in dance pop.

Oh my giddy aunt.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: AmazingWilf on July 06, 2013, 03:55:15 PM
It will be interesting to see if this means anything in terms of sales.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on July 06, 2013, 04:49:16 PM
(http://www.mcrfb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/SOUPY-SALES-1024x1024.jpg)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 06, 2013, 05:37:59 PM
We need to smash that dance pop market !


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 07, 2013, 08:49:31 AM
If I had a hammer...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 07, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
Lady Obscure likes the album... (http://www.ladyobscure.com/albums/shineback-rise-up-forgotten-return-destroyed/)



Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 07, 2013, 05:42:20 PM
Oh, sorry, we all talked about that somewhere else yesterday...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 08, 2013, 09:15:40 AM
Well you know what you can do. With a rusty spoon.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on July 08, 2013, 10:13:16 AM
Clean it?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 08, 2013, 10:19:28 AM
Shine the back of it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 08, 2013, 01:08:45 PM
With your arse.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Briefly Icky Giantess on July 08, 2013, 01:19:00 PM
Ladies, please....


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 08, 2013, 01:20:49 PM
Sorry Catherine, I appear to be stepping on your lines :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 08, 2013, 01:29:19 PM
It's lucky you didn't say b*m.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 08, 2013, 01:53:04 PM
"Sorry, Catherine I appear to be stepping on your b*m" makes no sense.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 08, 2013, 02:12:35 PM
Are you saying her b*m does not look big enough to stand on ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on July 12, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Shineback's going to be on the radio! Word is that it'll be featured on the Prog Mag show this Sunday on Team Rock Radio between six and eight in the evening G-to-the-M-to-the-T. Marvelous!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on July 12, 2013, 03:46:04 PM
Add to that a top review of the album here (http://www.onemetal.com/2013/07/12/shineback-rise-up-forgotten-return-destroyed/)!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on July 12, 2013, 04:00:31 PM
That's properly good, that is.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on July 13, 2013, 10:17:23 AM
Memory House 3 now up for your viewing pleasure! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYe6cuTZD7s


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 13, 2013, 11:20:04 AM
Shineback's going to be on the radio again!

All good news.  Be interesting to see how it turns into sales...


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: roger on July 13, 2013, 04:02:01 PM
I enjoyed MH 3.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on July 14, 2013, 11:59:48 AM
The Lady Obscure has uploaded the first part of her video interview with Simon here (http://www.ladyobscure.com/portfolio/lady-with-simon-godfrey/). Yes, a video interview, so you can actually watch two people talking! It's very good and I'm looking forward to part two.  8)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Mouse on July 14, 2013, 01:36:31 PM
Don't forget the Prog Magazine show on www.teamrockradio.com this evening at 18:00 GMT where they'll be playing some Shineback and other assorted goodies!


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on July 17, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
The Lady Obscure has uploaded the first part of her video interview with Simon here (http://www.ladyobscure.com/portfolio/lady-with-simon-godfrey/). Yes, a video interview, so you can actually watch two people talking! It's very good and I'm looking forward to part two.  8)
That's my lunchtime taken care of.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on July 29, 2013, 06:48:02 PM
review from colleague...  'it's like the Big Red Spark on ecstasy - much more my sort of thing than the Big Red Spark!'


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on July 29, 2013, 07:10:01 PM
Is this a colleague who has bought it ?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on July 29, 2013, 09:41:08 PM
I know who that is :D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on July 30, 2013, 05:43:58 PM
yes Robert - it is that person  ;D

James - not sure, I expect her boyfriend bought it if he wasn't given it.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on August 07, 2013, 02:37:36 PM
This one goes out to Tim (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=3406)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on August 17, 2013, 11:08:45 AM
The Last Of The Summer Shineback (http://jamesablog.starjump.org/?p=3530)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on October 15, 2013, 10:13:48 AM
apparently Shineback is big in Japan... http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Shineback_000000000529344/item_Rise-Up-Forgotten-Return-Destroyed-t-shirt-Ltd_5434700


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on October 15, 2013, 11:39:00 AM
Label : Merch Desk

 ::)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Trace on October 15, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
Label : Merch Desk

 ::)

Nellie goes global.
Nobody is safe.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on October 15, 2013, 05:12:47 PM
And Shineback keeps excellent company based on "related items" - namely, Yessongs, Close to the Edge, New by Sir Paul and In A World Like This from The Backstreet Boys.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on October 15, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
I wonder what Backstreet fans think?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: A James on October 15, 2013, 06:49:02 PM
Hopefully they think, "Buy Shineback !"


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: MikeEvs on October 16, 2013, 12:18:38 AM
Wore my Shineback t-shirt to the Steve Wilson gig in Bristol tonight as did Moray who thought I was Rick easy to get us photographers mixed up I guess  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: ɹǝʇsɹoɟɾɹ on October 16, 2013, 11:40:53 AM
That settles it. I'll wear my Shineback shirt to the Steven Wilson show tomorrow in Wolves and I will only answer to 'Mike'.  ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Ash on October 16, 2013, 12:43:41 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on October 16, 2013, 12:53:16 PM
Label : Merch Desk

 ::)

Nellie goes global.
Nobody is safe.

I am now international, what with Moon Safari , Harvest and Lazuli (swoon).


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Uncle Bulgaria on October 16, 2013, 01:10:20 PM
Has your basement seceded from the UK then Nellie?


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on October 16, 2013, 01:12:53 PM
Has your basement seceded from the UK then Nellie?
Shhhhhhhh  ;)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on October 16, 2013, 03:38:13 PM
And did you say you were selling Jump stuff too? (Not that I don't already have all their stuff)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: RobH on October 16, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Label : Merch Desk

 ::)

Nellie goes global.
Nobody is safe.

I am now international, what with Moon Safari , Harvest and Lazuli (swoon).

You certainly have three of my favourite European bands.  I wonder if RPWL will get added when they visit next year.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Nellie on October 16, 2013, 10:31:38 PM
And did you say you were selling Jump stuff too? (Not that I don't already have all their stuff)
I have a couple of their albums, yes. Not had time to put them up yet.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: hoboslobo on November 26, 2013, 06:58:14 PM
It is the first Swiss review, ja?! (http://proggies.ch/wordpress/?p=770)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on November 26, 2013, 08:33:28 PM
"abgefahren" in this context means "far out", not as Google translate put it "worn out" :-)


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: James_H on November 26, 2013, 09:22:55 PM
"This in turn will give him opportunities to weiterzuentwicken as an artist."

That's what Stacy said.


Title: Re: Shineback Info & News Updates
Post by: Robert on November 26, 2013, 10:25:13 PM
"further develop" or indeed "progress" :D The one word Google translate had trouble with in a review about progressive rock :-)